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Posted by ASymeonakis, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 5:23:16 PM
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Ginx, you must have missed the previous threads where I gave CJ a drubbing. Twice. He appears to enjoy being caught out and spanked. Then he feigns disinterest and disappears.
CJ, I almost choked on my Guinness, when I read your latest rant on 'haters' and those who, in your opinion 'insult anyone on the basis of race, religion or ethnicity'. The choking came when you abused Antonios with the 'English is obviously not your first language' jibe. You accuse me of defending 'haters'. Who are the 'haters' Why are they 'haters'? Do you even know or was it just another spontaneous outburst with no substance? I see that you've returned to your childish name-calling traits. What a dolt. Antonios, you are right, we need CJ. We all need a clown to make us laugh. Posted by Austin Powerless, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 7:04:00 PM
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Gormless - Antonios has informed us before that English is not his first language. My comment was not a "jibe", rather an acknowledgement that my ironic comment might have been easy for him to misunderstand. What's your excuse?
I've clearly stated that my problem is not with those who insult or offend others for any reason, rather it's with those odious types like Toben who regard it as their right to humiliate and intimidate others on the basis of race, religion or ethnicity, and do so in the name of "free speech". What part of that didn't you understand? Antonios - you're quite correct, my comment to Col was in response to one of his tedious references to the awful British PM Thatcher. It was directed specifically at him and wasn't meant to be taken seriously. More to the point of this thread, despite the fact that I disagree with nearly every odious comment that Col posts here, I agree that he has every right to do so as long as he stays within the forum rules. That goes for Gormless too, even if his intent is simply to pick a fight. Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 7:21:11 PM
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Anansi,
An update relating to your claim that <<Wilders hasn't been stopped from giving controversial viewpoints.>> "Denmark has postponed a conference on free speech to which Wilders was invited by the Danish People’s Party....according to information received by Berlingske Tidende newspaper, the conference has been delayed again because of government’s concern over Geert Wilders.” http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/1077 Posted by KMB, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 7:56:51 PM
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"Ginx, you must have missed the previous threads where I gave CJ a drubbing. Twice. He appears to enjoy being caught out and spanked. Then he feigns disinterest and disappears." (Quote: .us........less).
Not another one! You gave him a drubbing, did you? Did you really! Well continue to exercise on your rubber band buddy, because you come across as some sort of puny little twerp, verbally exercising the one piece of sinew he has mistaken for a muscle. I'm quite fond of looking at post history. Oh yes!! I see it! I can see where you frightened him out of his wits....sheesh! ________________________ Antonios; I am a migrant. I am of mixed 'coloured/white' race.(My mother is a purple colour with orange dots-and my father is just white;..skin/teeth/hair/eyeballs/toenails). Post history again. Not yours, but CJ's and TB. I repeat I admire your scrupulous lack of bias, but you won't get that from me! Not in this case. I AM damn biased! I too have always been surprised at TB's uxorious devotion to the odious Thatcher, and fail to understand why he didn't remain in the UK during her dictatorship. However, that is his business. What I object to is the incessant scathing acidity toward ANYONE he sees as less than him. This almost a British Empire ethic of putting 'subjects in their place'. Thatcherism at its best. Read the post histories, THEN tell me that TB has been treated unfairly. (I'll give you a ring one day. We don't live so far from one another). (Apologies in talking about you rather than to you TB, but that's the way it has panned out). Posted by Ginx, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 8:09:53 PM
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Ginx
I do not say to you to agree or like Col. What I say to you is that you must respect his right to express his ideas, his opinion, if he like thatser to promote her, if he like egland to promote england. IN NO WAY YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL HIM GO HOME, YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE. Ginx if you or any one else violate Col rights as migrant and he takes you to the court, I will support him in the court and I will fight for his rights. NOT BECAUSE I AGREE WITH HIS IDEAS BUT BECAUSE YOU OR ANY ONE ELSE WILL VIOLATE HIS BASIC RIGHTS. Do you understand me? THE BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS COME FIRST! Col does not have to ask you or me what idea he will promote, IT IS HIS RIGHT. THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION IS THE BASE OF DEMOCRACY. If you are a progresive person then you must fight to extend this rights, to deepen this rights. NOT TO LIMIT IT. Last weeks I saw an attack against the freedom of expression, we do not have hate problem here, we must show understanding, we must support the democracy and fight to make it stronger, not weaker. We do not need more rules, more restrictions, more orders and more limits. We are mature, and responsible and we know what we are doing with respect to others rights. Few persons try to make the forum to work as in bysiness, the manager to make the plans, to put the rules and orders and the rest to follow these rules, these orders. These persons have huge mistake. The labors execute the orders of the managers because they have no other choice, not because they agree with the managers, not because the manager is right. In the forum we are all equal, and we will not allow any one to create first and second class members, we will not allow any one to BLOCK any member from the forum because he/she does not agree with his ideas. Antonios Symeonakis Adelaide Posted by ASymeonakis, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 9:34:40 PM
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IT WAS NOT A RESPONSE TO COL.
"I've found a vid on YouTube of Col discussing patriotic matters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOhXpmozpbE
I think that Britain needs him more than we do.
Go home, Col. You don't belong here.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 22 February 2009 9:17:35 PM"
As you can see was not a response to Col,
When Col wrote that Morgan is a racist Morgan responded with the follow text.
"How amusing to be called a nasty racist by Col the Troll, who seems very touchy for a Monday morning.
My suggestion that he doesn't belong in Australia stems from his tedious habit of babbling on about his former home, its repulsive politicians, and how they represent the peak of human civilisation. I don't think I've read anything at all from him over the years that might indicate any kind of affinity with Australia - outside of Melbourne, that is.
"Race" doesn't come into it."
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2536&page=0#57218
IS THERE ANY LOCAL IN ANY COUNTRY WHO THINK OR EXPECT FROM MIGRANTS NOT TO LOVE AND CARE FOR THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGINE?
Did migrants sign any contract coming here that they must stop to love and care for their country of origine?
According to international law the migrants have the right to express their opinion without any descrimination. If Col loves England or not is his business, if he loves Australia or not is not only his business but our business too. If we want migrants to love Australia the we must respect their rights and not to tell them
"Go home, Col. You don't belong here."
I tried to open a thread about it but my thread rejected!
Col and any other migrant belong here!
Sorry Morgan but you kicked me on the head. I am not hater not a tired old trojan horse as wrote for me Examinator.
I will answer to him.
CJ Morgan, stay in the forum WE NEED YOU, an other day I will tell you my HUGE mistakes!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide