EXAMINATOR, (Re: Sunday, 3 May 2009 5:43:25 PM)

Why this case?

I counselled against bringing it in the first place. I followed it hoping the court would dismiss it. I was DISMAYED at the BREADTH of Judge Lander's judgement.

To the best of my knowledge this is the FIRST TIME an Australian judge has used the fact that people may feel offended and insulted as grounds for inhibiting free speech.

You write about giving up rights to "facilitate relative community harmony." That gives a licence to any disaffected group to invoke censorship. Any comment that upsets somebody can be said to upset "community harmony." That includes your comments about "uber-Zionist" conspiracies.

FOXY (Re: Sunday, 3 May 2009 6:58:35 PM)

Judge Holmes' exceptions to the right of free speech are well known and generally accepted today. You do not have a right to slander or libel people.

However the US Supreme Court, including Holmes', have always been at pains to interpret these exceptions NARROWLY. I doubt Holmes would have gone along with EXAMINATOR's theory of "indirect vilification."

So far as I am aware Holocaust denial is not a crime in the US – nor should it be.

FOXY

If truthfulness were a requirement for free speech every imam, priest and rabbi would have to be silenced!

CJ MORGAN still prattles on about "haters" without engaging with the issues. But, then again, neither do any of the other pro-censorship posters here.

ANANSI (Re: Sunday, 3 May 2009 7:27:14 PM)

I am not naïve about Toben. However until he directly incites violence or engages in actual slander or libel he should not be permitted to promulgate his garbage. This is a case of the cure – censorship – being worse than the disease – Toben's freedom to lie.

What none of the pro-censorship posters here seem willing to acknowledge is that restrictions on free speech can and WILL be used as a tool to erode civil liberties. Where would we be today if the Gay rights movement had been silenced because their comments would have offended Christians, Muslims and Jews?

GinX, if you'd thought before you screeched, you might have bothered to find out what it was all about.

fact: I referred to a 'spanking'
garbage: you referred to a 'thumping' - I thought that you would know the difference.

The spanking was relevant to posts on previous threads. You being a self-professed expert in digging up old posts failed dismally there, didn't you sweetie! As for your opinion of the 'bloke's' track record - are you having a laugh? She's having a laugh. Or do you really see CJ as the voice of reason and goodwill?
What's a 'squit'? Is it a squid with dyslexia? Or 'quits' in jail language? Looking forward to more PMT-fuelled rubbish now that you've escaped from Glenside.

Incidentally, your next post referred to the cows coming home, but we already know that you're back. Moo, moo, moo!

Something's been bothering me about the way that Gormless suddenly appeared from under his rock, after an absence from OLO for some time, apparently for the specific purpose of trolling me. Now it's clicked - before he morphed into "Austin Powerless" on OLO, he was "Jack the Lad" [ http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/user.asp?id=48355 ], who used to post prolific white supremacist, homophobic and holocaust denial drivel up until about a year ago.

No wonder he hates me so much :)

Indeed, he used to refer frequently to the "holohoax", as he called it. Strangely, after he'd made an utter idiot of himself about a year ago, he disappeared from OLO. Barely a couple of weeks later, "Austin Powerless" joined OLO.

You are "Jack the Lad", aren't you Gormless? You know, the white supremacist, homophobic, holocaust denier twat that even our resident wingnuts couldn't stand?

What a joke.

I'm offline until next week. See you under yet another pseudonym some time, no doubt. What a hero you are.

Jack the Lad? I knew there was something familiar!

.us........less, Did you come back to OLO just to attack others, rather than put your opinion on the thread topic?
Your very first post was the delusion of dominating another poster.

Thumping scthumping, I'm confusing you with the squit's 'humping'. Funny that.

Squit? it's onomatopoeic.....

Ha ha you pair of losers, can you back up your accusations? Or is it just more hot air? Maybe I'm also the long-lost 'Boaz' who was also capable of spanking you.

CJ, if trolling is the act of me having a go at your practise of posting to a thread with insults to those who you don't agree with, avoiding questions put to you by those posters in reply and disappearing when you don't like a dose of your own medicine, then I must be trolling you. Your little whinge, 'No wonder he hates me so much' was pathetic.
Of course, I forgot, anyone who you can't shout down is a 'troll' or a 'sock'. Much better that, than you should admit defeat. What a plonker.

Ginx, you profess to be, like CJ, an expert in going over numerous old posts from the darkest annals of OLO. Conveniently, you are selective in what material you then choose to comment on. If you read all my posts (which, apparently, you seem to have the time to do - a sign of an empty life) you would see that my posts are not 'just to attack others, rather than put (my) opinion on the thread topic. Unlike you, who jumps in screeching before researching all the facts. Silly Old Moo.

All we need is Curly to complete your threesome.

Jack the Lad; I don't need to do one damn thing. Your style is glaring, your hatred is a permanent state of being.

Before; and now,-ALL you do is attack. I don't back away from aggression, but I DO like to pass the occasional opinion!!;- that's kinda what we're here for,-and I did so here fairly early on, but as you were;-as you are now;-you attack and boast of conquest.

Why don't you pass an opinion, rather than boasting of 'giving a drubbing', or 'spanking' people.

That doesn't show strength; it shows weakness.