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Posted by ASymeonakis, Saturday, 2 May 2009 1:40:13 PM
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C J Morga.Who is to decide what is offensive? The NSW Govt tried to ban all protests against the Pope when he visited recently.What right did they have to stop people wearing T-shirts protesting against his policies?
Our freedoms are under attack and the PC brigade are aiding and abetting this. Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 2 May 2009 2:23:12 PM
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CJ Morgan
Anybody who claims to be "offend(ed), insult(ed) or humiliate(d) or intimidate(d) because of their race, color or national or ethnic origin" (sexual orientation will be next), can use these laws to "humiliate or intimidate" someone who expresses an opinion that can be remotely determined to come under the purview of these laws. The accuser gets a free ride at public expense while the accused will likely need to spend thousands of dollars and many hours defending themselves. Look at the sad history of the Canadian Human Rights Commissions which have devolved into kangaroo courts which are manipulated by people of totalitarian bent to shut down debate. http://www.ezralevant.com/ (A bit like people on this forum who use the trolling accusation to silence dissent.) The accused generally settle out of court simply because its cheaper than being wrung through the mill. Look at the Dutch example where competing political parties are using these laws to criminalise and silence rivals (re: Geert Wilders). Unfortunately, CJ Morgan, you are a typical example of the hypocrisy of such people who feel free to "offend, insult or intimidate or humiliate" others by calling them "haters" and then having the gall to say "Do you want to be free to intimidate and humiliate others in print?" Posted by KMB, Saturday, 2 May 2009 3:12:26 PM
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These laws are only put in place to further enslave us by taking more of our God-given rights away. No government cares about offending a particular race, religion, etc.
Sadly we cannot ignore these stupid laws once they are in place otherwise we all fall victim to them. But the one thing we can all do is openly oppose these laws and better educate our children and adults so that we don't even need to think about creating legislation like this. A massive reverse social engineering project is needed as soon as possible. Posted by JAD, Saturday, 2 May 2009 3:36:53 PM
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Here is just a little thought. Since we are now living in the 21st century and not the 19th, a new challenge for world order is now on display. Since multiculturalism is inevitable, the hiding behind the discrimination idol is only going to delay our gathering as a human species.
In other words, if we don't sort this all out in the online boxing ring, we will never get these prejudice, racist, religious and multi-cultural stones, which hangs over our heads from a time well past. This is why freedom of speech gives us all the opportunity to get what ever is in our systems out in the open and dealt with and processed with all we can muster whilst still in our evolutionary infancy. The Internet is a great place to vent our frustrations and let the people put in line those who step over it, and not the courts. Modes. Weekly on-line suspensions for only the very serious offences. But many debate with wit and intelligence and that's what is needed as well the hunt for the truth. KMB is well in order. EVO Posted by EVO2, Saturday, 2 May 2009 4:30:49 PM
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Steven
This topic has been hashed to death. Please stop using tired old trojan horses to defend Israel and its PR machine.You have no desire to discuss the topic without loaded parameters. This is Australia. At least declare your secondary motive. . Clearly you have the proverbial mote in your eye. The law is a double edged sword. I agree with CJ you just want to curb any criticism of all things Jewish (Israeli). You are starting to sound like Polycarp. FYI I am neither Pro or con either side. I just don't subscribe the Israeli claims of being the sole victim. Posted by examinator, Saturday, 2 May 2009 5:15:04 PM
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Even I support actively these rights for any person, religious or non religious, christian, muslim or atheist etc.
BUT I can not acept to limit my basic rights because any extremist thinks that his religious or god is more important from my basic human rights.
We do not live in a theocratic state and we will NOT ALLOW any one to violate our basic rights, direct or indirect.
I am afraid that some people are ready to make some steps backword, that some people are ready to abandon their rights.
NO! WE WILL NOT MOVE BACKWORD, OTHERS MUST MOVE FORWORD, THEIR IDEAS AND BEHAVE SHOULD COMPLY WITH THE 21st CENTURY, WITH THE CURRENT CIVILIZATION.
Realy I am not ready for the dark ages!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide