KMB,

It doesn't work like you have posted for Monkeys or 747s. There are a series of selection processes. Each stage with shorter odds.

O.

Great post, OUG. It's hard to decide which has more authority: a century of rigorous scientific analysis, or a collection of Bronze Age folk tales.

The implications are profound.

OH sancho...[such clever wit,but so few facts]

but the thing is there is too many facts that have nothing as valid proof,...here is the last post on the topic
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2305

please feel free to present any of the facts rebutted there..here again...lol

please reveal what the 100 years of rigorous research has revealed?...lol

oliver mendel[a priest discovered mendelic inheritance[mendelism rebuts evolution[just as study of darwind finches reveals that the vairiation of darwins finches only ever evolved finches

[and worse for you evolutionists,further study reveals the vairiations recorded are not progressive but waver according to seasonal vairiations[but allways between the species mean]

you will no doudt have read of the trilions of fruitfly breeding generations that have NEVER evolved a single not fruitfly..[even your hero[darwin,ok he is mine too]..but he wrote evolution of the species NOT GENUS,

its evolution of genus that your evolution godheads call evolution[but as repeatedly proven]...NO SINGLE GENUS HAS EVOLVED FROM ANY OTHER GENUS

in the last debait..we heard how bacteria mutated into bacteria[how ringspecies of seagulls evolved into..[wait for it SEAGULLS],,lol,we even covered the lack of fossils[mainly in the species into new genus level..lol]the missing links between genus..lol

its sad really how useless the real facts are when egsamined[how clear the fraud of evolving genus really is [even your acclaimed bird /lizard has been revealed fraud,..as has your neanderthal[but its a great story to sell to kids[thus you too were conned..as a child]

you think the fact is proved[but the sad truth is is a flawed theory]go ahead read the link
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2305

feel free to read all the evidence,..please feel free to present your proof...[but clearly your a arm chair theorist parroting rot,..you have been conned into believing..[sold a godless evolving/theory]

but my mind remains open[despite 30 years of breeding many species i am yet ready to hear your PROOFS[not your wit],..go ahead bring your proof...lol

dont just accept lies and deceptions as fact
do your research[validate/PROVE your theory]

as i said earlier replicate,it using your science..[if science it really could be claimed to be...lol]...its a fancyfull theory...[get over it]...stick with comedy..evolution is a joke

One Under God,

One of the problems you have OUG is that you see things in black & white.
Unfortunately, reality is rarely so clear cut – usually, it exhibits gradation.

Representing species as insular & immutable is a more a teaching aid than a refection of reality. In an undisturbed natural system you’d more often than not see a whole series of closely related and intermediate forms.
http://www.rafonda.com/interbreeding_between_species.html

Likewise, there is not life & non-life, with a ruddy great Chinese wall down the middle . There is a slow gradation from life to
non-life forms with every variation in between. We draw a line in the sand – at another time we may draw the line some where else .
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/the_meaning_of_life/

Under one God,

The "Theory of Natural Selection" is indeed a theory - hence it's name.

I eagerly await any definitive proof of an alternative explanation, based on equally compelling scientific evidence of course.

Casting doubt on one theory does not automatically prove another.

Agronomist:
I know this is not the present subject of discussion (sorry KMB) I thought to pass this on to you (remembering the X factor you mentioned)
maybe you know the url already.Hope this finds you well.
http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/G/GeneTherapy.html#SCID-X1