Examinator wrote: Likewise there are often as many reasons contributing reasons why some take on this activity. Some highly complex, some as a consequence of childhood molestation, some because of poor options the list goes on.

Dear Examinator,
I think very few of us find the niche that most suits us in life. Most of us fall through particular doors because of the experiences and people we chanced to encounter. If I had a chance to relive my life I would make different choices in occupation and associations. At 83 I am not going to go round again.

A friend had a severely physically handicapped son. While his mind was razor sharp his main outlet was a computer that he operated through devices set up to accommodate his handicap. My friend took him to a prostitute who took on such people. My friend told me his son said it was one of the most wonderful experiences in his life. She kindly encouraged him, and he was able to perform. His son died in his early thirties, but at least he had that.

My cousin had an emotionally handicapped son. He was in and out of institutions. His emotional control was such that he could not have normal relationships with other human beings. She arranged for a prostitute to have relations with her son. It was a very good experience for him. He also died young, but my cousin was happy that he at least had that.

Prostitutes are not social service workers, but I think they occasionally do more good. A proficient prostitute regards her client’s feelings and leaves her client better for the experience. In providing an experience that may be otherwise not easily available she certainly contributes more than:

President Bush 43 who lied his country into war and adopted torture as a national policy.

Televangelists who prey on the gullible.

Ad people who manipulate people’s needs.

Bankers who persuade people to take out loans they know cannot be repaid.

Of the above only the prostitute is subject to criminal penalties. That is unfair.

david f,
Sometime back the was an article here written by a social worker about the sexual needs of handicapped people and she made mention of an organisation that assists handicapped people by taking them to prostitutes. I have forgotten the name of the organisation but I thought it was a good idea. Perhaps some poster may recall.

To foxy and Houellebeuq. These are meant to be funny.

All women charge for sex, prostitutes are just more open with their prices.

If one has sex with a prostitute against her will, is it rape or shoplifting?

All women charge for sex, prostitutes are just more open with their prices
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very true,

at the very start of my family law adventure 20 years ago I was talking to a [previously] rich chap at the tennis club who had "better rationalised" his own experience [it had been 5 years for him, so cold hard rationisation had morphed from initial anger]

he appraised the value of the ex marriage as dollars/bonk, and had come to a figure of $200/bonk over 20 years.

as he said, you can get a fantastic prostitute for $200 and are then free to do as you please [like play tennis]

I think there's something in that for all of us, don't you, as Visard used to say

Yabby
I assumed that sex was on offer in the relationship with my comment about "bad behaviour". There are many partners who 'cheat' who are still having sex at home. Would you feel okay about your partner cheating on you if your sex life was good?

FYI, I happen to agree with Bettina Arndt's recent statements. Bettina's presence on Q&A the other night was interesting. She was not advocating that women lie back and think of England but talked about "dipping the canoe in the water" in respect of sexual relations within a partnership and making an effort with intimacy, an important part of any relationship. The same should go for men who might lose interest in bed.

Both parties should make an effort to please each other in bed, that is part of intimacy. But this is a whole different thing to cheating with a partner when sex is freely available at home.

I should add that cheating is only cheating when there is an expectation of fidelity. If partners opt an open relationship or one partner loses interest and says go for it - that is not cheating. It would not be my cup of tea but it might be the drink of choice for some.

[As for shopping Yabby, I don't shop at Aldi I shop at Woolies. My comment on the other thread came from reading about Aldi's move to Australia in various business magazines I was impressed that they make an effort to stock Australian products next to an imported product. So they offer an imported product and an Australian product. I believe all their vegies/fruit are sourced from Australian producers where possible. Contrast this ironically to the Australian owned supermarkets who don't make this commitment.

If you found Australian owned and grown tomato paste at your supermarket good for you but there are none here in my closest supermarket. Luckily in relation to garlic or tomatoes I grow my own for the most part and stock up, and only resort to bought stuff in-between seasons (and remember to plant more next year) :)]

*But this is a whole different thing to cheating with a partner when sex is freely available at home.*

Well that is the point, often it isn't. So that was the point
I was trying to make and I see the two as quite different
situations.

The woman who is on a "no, no, no" trip, should not be
amazed if hubby wanders off to other pastures.

Yup, there are guys who will fool around no matter what,
but also a great many who simply get sick of hearing no.

So that was why I made my original point, none of us know all
the details of what happened in another relationship, so its
not really possible to judge.

You answer on tomatoe sauce surprises me, for I would be amazed
if Woolies don't stock something as basic as Leggo's. Aldi
are the ones with a business plan of stocking as few lines as
possible, in contrast to Coles and Woolies, who give people
massive choice.

Yabby
Well we are in agreement about sex if nothing else.

I don't want to sidetrack this thread too much but from my recollection Leggos was bought out by an American company - I believe the same one that bought Edgells and other Austraian icons. You are right about the more limited range at Aldi but that is another issue, as I said I don't shop at Aldi but whether I would or not I would still buy the Australian owned brand or at least one that sourced the produce in Australia if there was no choice. We are losing a lot of our food brands. I don't want to sidetrack the prostitutes with a tomato paste discussion, I will try and find the other thread - I have forgotten which one it was.