ROB P... regarding the squashing of a grove of trees.... I suggest you examine what MOHAMMAD did to the people of Ta'if when he beseiged them to force them to convert to Islam. (look it up) He did exactly that.

FOXY.. you_said:

<<Historically we have perpetrators who never saw the inside of a jail cell or faced criminal prosecution for their crimes against humanity.>>

<<Google 'global atrocities' and you'll come up with lists that are mind-boggling.>> (Noooo kidding!)

EXXXXAACTLY..which leads to the blatantly obvious_question....

<<So perhaps the question that needs to be asked is - which war crimes
get prosecuted? And/or which ones should be?>>

Which of course is just one of the many questions that armchair philosphers can so comfortably write from their mansions built on stolen aboriginal land.. (while hypcritically quite oblivious to or in denial about that fact)about events in foreign lands.

END GAME...what in this wide world is the value or point about asking these silly questions?

THIS....is where any hint of support for the HAMAS terrorists leads to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2siJCAn2tTs&feature=email

Just in case you don't actually view it.... Arabs in UK and other sympathizers at a pro Graza demonstration are yelling and laughing
"LONG LIVE HITLER"
"REST IN PEACE HITLER"
"PUT JEWS IN OVENS"
"JEWS ARE FOSSIL FUEL"

All of them are so saddened by the events of Gaza that they are LAUGHING as such things are yelled out.

In Melbourne Arab/Palestinian children are holding up signs showing "JEWS NEED MORE OF with arrows pointing to to a swastika"

Now..to be blunt to you..and MUCH more blunt (and very unapologetically with CJ Morgan)... anyone who talks about 'me' spreading fear and hate and loathing' is living in cloud cuckoo land when compared to this shameful outburst of degraded inhumanity by Muslims and Socialists on the streets of UK and Australia.

I suggest that support from threads like THIS is in reality promoting loathing of the worst kind....of Jews.

You cannot escape from the fact that you did not show any hint of even handedness at the opening of this thread and your links only mentioned ISRAEL.

Poor Israel.

Every one of it's citizens has been personally vilified for their entire lives, as were all of their ancestors.
Now the UN has been created soley to maintain that oppression on a world stage.

On top of that, the nation has never done anything wrong in it's entire history, never committed a single atrocity, always respected international law, always been open and honest with its dealings and has been the perpetual victim of religious intolerance and lies for the past six decades and anyone who disagrees is an anti-semite or a nazi.

Stories like this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/4279102/Bullets-in-the-brain-shrapnel-in-the-spine-the-terrible-injuries-suffered-by-children-of-Gaza.html
are all obviously contrived to garner undeserved sympathy for their legion of evil enemies by suggesting that civilians were deliberately targetted by their troops when the injuries were probably self-induced.

So, Porkyboaz, besides your usual ranting and raving, did you check to see whether you're banned or not?

"ROB P... regarding the squashing of a grove of trees.... I suggest you examine what MOHAMMAD did to the people of Ta'if when he beseiged them to force them to convert to Islam. (look it up) He did exactly that."

I didn't look it up (I wouldn't know where to), but it's probably true. Maybe there is a legitimate square-up going on after all.

However, did Mohammed also:

• throw Jews out of their houses and flatten them?
• fire white phosphorus at them (or do something that had the same effect)?
• kill some Jewish children indiscriminately?

Or are these the newly-minted sins of the current crop of Jews?
Is it a case of the latest sinner outdoing the former?

A war crimes tribunal should be established and the prosecution of those responsible for war crimes, on either side, should be carried out with vigour. However we have long seen that it is only the defeated that are ever called to account ...

There is no doubt that Israeli soldiers have committed war crimes. Unfortunately, the Israeli leadership has seen fit to announce that it will indemnify its soldiers against any prosecution for war crimes. This exemplifies the Israeli attitude - that might is right and, like its benefactor, the USA - it can change the rules to suit itself and ignore not only international law but ethical and humane conduct.

Unfortunately, the USA has repeatedly thumbed its nose at the UN and, in so doing, has emasculated it and made it easy for Israel to do the same. In this environment, it will be extremely difficult for any international tribunal to effect justice.

The leadership of both countries would do well to remember that state aggression will never defeat a common people fighing for survival -that's why the people won in Korea, in Cuba, in Vietnam ...

Tribunal or no, history will judge who are the criminals ...

Dear Rob P

that was an excellent response :) even though you don't know where to look...Wiki is always a good resort.

But this is most informative:
http://alislaah3.tripod.com/alislaah/id17.html

In that..you will find the TRUE nature of Islamic expansion.. via intimidation and seige.. fear of the wrath of mohammad..

It also contains the bit about him razing their vinyards.

You know the most ironic bit about that? When Mohammad visited Ta'if the first time.. he was stoned and found refuge and food IN those very vinyards some of which belonged to those who saves his LIFE!
"Scumbag/Pusbucket/Degenerate" is how many would describe anyone who does this to those who saved his life!

Now.. your_list.

Did_Mohammad.....

1/• throw Jews out of their houses and flatten_them?

2/• fire white phosphorus at them (or do something that had the same effect)?
3/• kill some Jewish children indiscriminately?

He did the equivalent of all that. But you might not accept 'my' "selective quotation of obscure ancient documents" as I'm regularly charged with using.

Look up Banu Qurayza (mass murder/enslavement of women and children)
1/ Mass murder/Genocide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Qurayzah
dispossession of the Banu Qurnayqa, Banu Al Nadir Jewish tribes.(But he kept the houses_for_his_thugs)

2/ Murder_political_Opponents. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka%27b_ibn_al-Ashraf

3/ Killing_children? well..nope..I can't find evidence for that. But he is reported to have said in the authentic oral tradition.

"Killing of women and children is permissable as long as it is not deliberate"

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/052.sbt.html

scroll to number 256 where Mohammad responds to the question about women and children killed during night raids.. "they are from them (The pagans)".. i.e.. doesn't matter.

AMAZING..Mohammad hereby approves of the Israeli night raids which kill women and children! because.. such killing was not deliberate.

Oh.. just to underline how much evil and hate permeate a lot of the Gaza protests.
See THIS!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_tzOb0MWwfyk/SXLykLiMgrI/AAAAAAAADbk/hDyeQlawepg/s512/100_2692.JPG

"Jews need more of this"(image of swastika)

From the pro Gaza rally on Jan 18th Melbourne.

Morgan and others.. WHO the heck is inciting fear, hate and loathing here? LOOK at this sign.. and then a mirror and try to say "This is all about injustice" and keep a straight face.