Thank you also eftfnc and Celivia Dickie for the links.
Speaking of fish I assume you all saw this-

Indonesia refuse repairs for Japanese whaling ship
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/16/2468118.htm

yabby I too have a question for you.
Why do you bother?
Far from old school I smell standard issue Aussie bush man on you.
Opinions like yours, even much more extreme are held not only in the bush but by Joe average too.
I came for a laugh, and in wonder, Nicky's thread had little support and I thought just maybe we could talk here.
We did, mostly without the insults till late in the thread.
But the more you speak like Joe average bushy the more the insults are thrown at you, why do bother?
Sometimes views that are not even near those held by the majority get more air than they should, but not in places it counts.
Sea Kittens are no longer the subject, meat eating and animal welfare is.
Notice how the concerns about vegetables being contaminated by deliberate manipulation is ignored?
It is more than likely the equivalent of two headed fish has found its way on the table from this unsafe manipulation of every food we grow, if not yet soon.
Well now that I have outed myself as a believer in common sense I will trot of the stage.
May come back to value the coming insults, sea Kitty and eggs for breaky got to go.

http://qcl.farmonline.com.au/news/state/agribusiness-and-general/general/barra-bounce-back-after-killer-cold/1408001.aspx?src=enews

Getting away from rights and wrongs I wonder if its possible to look inside peoples minds who enjoy fishing. I am serious. Perhaps if we research what it is they really enjoy it might give us a better understanding.

Todays newspaper reads- To make things more 'enjoyable.'

As a kid I recall going fishing with Dad. It was great to spend time with him and I think he loved just being on the beach again . Of course in his younger life fishing was a way of the family living as they lived deep in the bush.
My Grandad blew his arm off fishing I was told. Still he lived with his shark jaws hanging from the rafters. Most of their stories told over the years really related to time spent together miles down the beach or driving bullocks in the bush. I dont know if hey ever realised that TBO.

I have met many a gentle person who hasnt even thought about fish feeling pain. To me it just makes plain sense but how many people really think about it.

The Sea kitten ideas really isnt a bad idea. Perhaps the RSPCA combined with Government need more education in schools and other places.

PETA tend to get up peoples noses with an attitude of attacking people for eating meat and fish.

While RSPCA are short staffed they hold a more main stream approach which in the long run works better with the general public.

This project is supported by the Commonwealth Government through a grant-in-aid administered by the Department of Finance and Administration. Its worth a read. I would like to add if commercial fishing must use stunners perhaps the Government should look at private fishing.

http://www.rspca.org.au/events/seminars04_summary.pdf

Question What was the standard method of killing Yabbies and has anything changed withi the industry.
in other words do they now stun them. Does anybody know

Gosh this thread has been open well past its use-by date and is beginning to smell much like its topic when left out too long.

And having brought us back to topic ,

“Sea-kittens” – addressing one of its possible definitions

“fishy smelling pussy”.

For which, I thought there were deodorant sprays available?

Celivia and Dickie,
You want to stop the killing of pilot whales, that are used for human consumption by indigenous people of the Foreo Islands. I assume all whale and dolphin harvesting as well.

What about all the Krill and squid, and sea kittys, the whales and dolphins devour. One big whale must devour millions of the poor little Krill and no one gives a damn about them. Are they not sea kittens too and to be swallowed whole and die by the digestive juices does not sound like a pleasant way to die. So the Japanese and Foreo Islanders may be saving the lives of millions upon millions of animal lives.

Just where are your ethical standards. Have you a campaign to teach these species to graze on sea weed?

Banjo

Your questions can not be answered in a short post. My observations reveal that, without human interference, there is much law and order among other species. The krill to which you refer is supplied by nature to sustain another and so on. The krill, prior to meeting its fate, have not been subjected to the abominable cruelty which "intelligent" man likes to inflict on its victims.

Among all species, there is order and balance with the exception of humans who in their “wisdom” have dumped many species into foreign lands, thus corrupting those laws, thus threatening man’s own survival, thus corrupting the balance in nature.

Friday, in the park, I was suddenly alarmed by 7 mudlarks appearing from several trees – the cacophony of screeching was deafening. I then witnessed a baby mudlark which had fallen from its nest – a baby they were protecting from predators. These birds allowed me to return it to a tree but they swooped my dog constantly. After a successful endeavour and on returning home, 2 of the birds followed, swooping my poor dog but not attacking him. “Ok” I told the birds – “we’re going!”

The people of the Faroe Islands do not mass slaughter these whales because they are hungry. It is a medieval cultural practice and an abominable one where these intelligent animals witness the brutal slaying of their companions before their own vicious slaughter.

We will not endeavour to force any species to graze on sea grass. That is not the role of humans. We are but one small part of the web of life. Your belief that we are superior and can override the laws of nature is precisely why man’s survival is now seriously threatened. We are the cruellest and greatest predators but we will not triumph. We will remain at the bottom of the heap!

“Where are YOUR ethical standards?” Where is your wisdom? Where is your humility?