Good comments Pynchme. You’ve presented quite a lot of points that need careful consideration.

On testosterone and aggression: it has been shown that there is a strong link between these in various animals, as the first article that you referred us to points out.

The correlation is less clear in humans. But that is surely to be expected in an intelligent thinking being, where all sorts of other factors can come into it that simply can’t in non-thinking species that are driven to a much greater extent by their hormones, base impulses and genetics.

There is a correlation between aggression, and bad cholesterol and obesity. But while this might possibly have some biochemical aspect, it is more likely to be psychological, I would think.

Those males who let themselves go and become obese and unfit are very likely to feel great frustration at their state and inability to remain trim and attractive, very generally speaking of course. It is easy to see how this discontent can feed aggression compared to people who have high self-esteem.

I don’t think that the more cryptic relationship between testosterone and aggression, or the broader causal base of aggression in humans, diminishes Darwinian theory at all in this regard.

So Pynchme, what do you think is going on? Are you a creationist or do you think that Darwinian theory is on the right track to explaining the being that we are, but that it just needs a lot of refining?

dear arjay
READ THE LINK

rebut it if you can
http://www.biblelife.org/evolution.htm
Oops! Biology Scientists Just Changed the "Scientific Facts" Again.

Science books have been telling us for years that all human are 99.9 percent genetically identical,and it is commonly said that humans“share”98-99 percent of their DNA with chimpanzees.

Now we find the claims were all fabricated lies.Instead of having only 0.1 percent difference between human individuals,we now find that people can be genetically different by as much as 10 to 12 percent.This is a 100 to 120 times increase in the degree of difference.This announcement is a another crushing blow to the false theory of evolution, but your university professor will simply ignore it.

Humans can be 10%to 12 percent genetically different,not 99.9 percent identical
http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-11-22-voa80.cfm

Scientists Revise Map of Human Genome
By Jessica Berman, Washington

"Scientists have revised the map of the human genome,saying human beings are genetically more complex than previously thought.The discovery has surprised experts who say it is likely to transform medical research...VOA's Jessica Berman reports."

"In 2000, the Human Genome Project unveiled a road map of the six billion chemical bases,or alphabet molecules, that make up the body's genetic structure called DNA."

"The DNA encodes for 30,000 genes or proteins which are responsible for every physical characteristic in the body,including eye and hair color. At the time, scientists said all humans could be 99.9 percent genetically identical."

"But as they peered more deeply into the DNA of unrelated individuals, researchers made a startling discovery - large segments of their DNA, from thousands to millions of units,varied greatly,a phenomenon called copy number variations, or CNVs."

"The discovery means that the genes of any given individual are at least 10 to 12 percent different from those of another human."..

Don't believe your biology science text book.Modern biology is not a science.Modern biology as taught in high schools and universities is nothing more than made up conjecture and nonsense.Biology is not scientifically true.

Biologists keep revising"science"that was previously taught as being fact...because it is simply brainwashing.

Evolutionary Fraud from Piltdown,England
http://www.biblelife.org/ufo.htm

extracted from my previous mentioned link
in reponse to a question

..>>2)Failed models
http://creationontheweb.com/images/pdfs/tj/j03_1/j03_1_152-153.pdf
-Homo Erectus
-Homo Neanderthal
Were they practise runs?...<<

[NO fraud]
check out question 15
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:igMSW56WBdgJ:www.123facts.com/quiz_results.php%3Fquizid%3D2585+ww2+homoerectus+fossils+disapeared&hl=en&gl=au&strip=1

[such are the high stakes in this game]

http://www.weaverresearch.org/evol_table.htm

anyhow the debait at link goes on
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2305&page=0

if evolution is a science reveal its proofs

i contend its a collection of facts we been conned to be proving one thing when it dont

somewhere at that link i wrote there are 6/800 types of ape monkey etc, to claim we share 98 percent of their dna is to leave out a lot of primates[see ptrevious link that our vairiation alone is over 20% WITHIN THE HUMAN SPECIES[that looks way more the same than the 800 chimp/primate TYPES

look at the variation between the apes[yet you been told we and ALL OF THEM are 98 percent the same[not by a long shot]

to assimulate ape behaviour to human behaviour is equally absurd[please reveal one ape that has designed and built anything [non natural ,like a metal bridhge to no where] like man kind regularilly does [showing 'tool-use 'snt revealing as much as science has infured [except to convince the gullible]

what ape developed writing [wrote a song, which of these trillion primates wrote a shakespearian play[which built the typewriter[can you see there making it up as they go

[but via these popular magazine throw-aways the lies just go on, the absurdities move ever further from science into the complete realms of delusion

yet evolutionists keep believoing the theory RELIGIOUSLY
their faith in science
is the same as a believers faith religion[based on the messenger who presumed to call people to god

see god alone deserves our belief[know his amasing creation has not been created by either that hand of ape nor scientist]

evolution even has its own holy[yet unavailable]unholy-texts, and high priests, their saints and their dead jesus godhead replacements[dar-win] dorkkkins et al

Deary me, the nutcase fundies are at it again, they can't help
themselves.

Fact is that evolution theory is taught at every major university
on the planet as part of biology. All knowledge in science
is tentative, we update it as we learn more, to add to the
mountain of evidence.

All this stuff was thrashed out in the US courts yet once again
recently, when the fundies tried to stop evolution theory being
taught at some schools in Kansas. When the crunch came and they
called every witness that they could think of, they lost!
SBS did a documentary on the case.

But the Christian Taliban is a bit like the Muslim Taliban.
As soon as some are shot down in flames, another bunch
of potential heroes think that they are God's gift to the fundy
movement.

Sorry folks, nobody is listening and people don't want to go
over the same old stuff, over and over again. Its been done
to death on OLO.

dea oh dear gabby

research your facts girl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District_trial_documents
from
http://www.aclu.org/evolution/legal/complaint.pdf

QUOTE>>the defendant..The[EVOLUTION]Theory is not a fact.Gaps in the Theory exist for which there is no evidence...>>

[there are many GAPS ,SEE NEXT POST]
as honest appraisal would confirm

The complaint was[quote>>.'(defendants’“intelligent design policy”)will compel public school science teachers to present to their students in biology class information that is inherently religious,not scientific,in nature.

The resolution thus is in clear and direct violation of the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause,which prohibits the teaching or presentation of religious ideas in public school science classes>>>

so[DUH][lol]it wasnt ABOUT evolution]
but about''teaching or presentation of religious ideas'!

it wasnt about PROVING nor DIS-proving'CREATION'

[it was ONLY about allowing the full facts to be questioned ON THE GROUNDS of 'teaching religious ideas in public schools'']

why cant you retarded athiests cant even read the trial transcripts[LOL]#

its so typical to spout off your clap trap unquestioned
upon gulible children[try reading the info not watching the fiction in a movie]

grow up girl

Under One God is suffering from illogical perturbation.Stop it,or you will go blind!