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Why we are, as we are

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Wrong once again UOG, this is what The Ancestors Tale is all
about snip

The renowned biologist and thinker Richard Dawkins presents his most expansive work yet: a comprehensive look at evolution, ranging from the latest developments in the field to his own provocative views. Loosely based on the form of Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, Dawkins's Tale takes us modern humans back through four billion years of life on our planet. As the pilgrimage progresses, we join with other organisms at the forty "rendezvous points" where we find a common ancestor. The band of pilgrims swells into a vast crowd as we join first with other primates, then with other mammals, and so on back to the first primordial organism. Dawkins's brilliant, inventive approach allows us to view the connections between ourselves and all other life in a bracingly novel way. It also lets him shed bright new light on the most compelling aspects of evolutionary history and theory: sexual selection, speciation, convergent evolution, extinction, genetics, plate tectonics, geographical dispersal, and more. The Ancestor's Tale is at once a far-reaching survey of the latest, best thinking on biology and a fascinating history of life on Earth. Here Dawkins shows us how remarkable we are, how astonishing our history, and how intimate our relationship with the rest of the living world.

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The Ancestor's Tale: A Pilgrimage to the Dawn of Evolution
By Richard Dawkins, Yan Wong
Contributor Yan Wong
Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2004
ISBN 0618005838, 9780618005833
673 pages

http://books.google.com/books?id=Tub-X6wydKgC#reviews_anchor
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 8 January 2009 7:20:33 AM
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extracted..

http://www.arn.org/docs/behe/mb_ancestorstalereview_0506.htm

<<Dawkins’book differs from texts in other ways,too,but these are less helpful...Instead of progressing from the simplest creatures to the more complex,the storyline regresses.

It begins with humans and mammals,moves to reptiles, fish, and simpler vertebrates,and finishes with amoeba and bacteria.>>

wonder what he says created the amoeba?LOL..you read my amoeba post on the evolution thread

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2305#50521

>>This approach is quite peculiar,like a book about mathematics that proceeds from calculus through algebra and down to addition <<.lol

Dawkins’reasons for the backward structure are alternately strained and tendentious...But the hook sticks Dawkins with a narrative structure that ill suits the story of biology.

If he really wanted to use The Canterbury Tales as a model,why not just have a pilgrimage by the first cell from the start of life to the present...where it could meet up with more complex descendants ending with humans?Because,you see,he worried that would imply evolution was working toward a goal...us,which simply would not do.

Dawkins knows in the marrow of his bones that evolution has no goal.>>lol

lol dorkkkins reverse evolution..[devolution?]is a pill-grim-age..,working backwards avoids explaining where him and hid eugenics mates are evolving us into? LOL-think more of a cookcoo,us raising their genes,but first make us sterile then insert the clone of their version of their hitler youth perfection..

>>The second major defect of the book is that, other than a dust jacket photo of the author,it has no high quality,color photographs.

It’s hard to even puzzle out what’s going on in some pictures,such as those of the upside-down catfish(looked at from any angle)or Heron Island what is that thing?a cell?a kidney?).

The poor photos make it impossible to share Dawkins’rapture over Venus’s girdle or the leafy sea dragon — they’re splotches of ink...

the faulse messiah on his pilgrimage lol..to LULL the sheep into our sleep

oh gabby i thought you more clever.. but hey beginning with today neatly avoids speculating on where were going[re gmo mutations 'evolving' us into real beasts via our foods] but your an adult ape thus dont deserve to know about that[lol] it would be funny but its not
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 8 January 2009 1:43:17 PM
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So let me see now. Dawkins writes 673 pages about evolutiion
theory and your two major gripes are that he wrote it in an
order that does not suit you and that the photos are
black and white.

Meantime you quote me from Creation ministries, the mob
IIRC who think that the world is about 6000 years old
and you think I should take you or them seriously?

Hehe OUG, quit the verbal masturbation please :)

Let me explain it this way sunshine. Dawkins is rated
as a top biologist, very much in touch with the coalface
of scientific discovery. He does a great job at explaining
the mountain of evidence that is available in scientific
journals etc, in a way that even people like you can understand
it. He just does not tolerate fools lightly, for which I cannot
blame him.

Dawkins is fully aware that people like you are far more interested
in themselves then in bacteria. So he has changed the order, to
save you reading the last chapter first. Great thinking!

Two versions of the book were published, one with colour photos
and one with black and white, for el cheapo customers.
Your reviewer is clearly an el cheapo character :)

If the order of the book and the fact that your reviewed version
was not in colour, are your only critiques of 673 pages of
evolution theory, then clearly Dawkins has produced a
sensational book, worth reading by all who want to understand
evolution theory!

But clearly you are not interested in understanding what science has
discovered, or you would order a copy or borrow one from the library
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 8 January 2009 2:12:31 PM
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