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Posted by Nicky, Sunday, 25 January 2009 10:33:23 PM
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I'd say that's a very accurate assessment you've made of AA and their affiliations Nicky. From my observations they all support each other and it is refreshing to witness such dedication and solidarity.
Learn from Nicky's post PALE. Your own posts are continually peppered with malice towards those you foolishly perceive as "competition" yet it is only you who has a self-interest. Only you wear the leper's bell PALE. Posted by dickie, Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:18:04 PM
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"Do not address any further posts to me and do not follow me from thread to thread as you have for three years.
I will not reply." Nicky follow you around PALE? Get a grip on yourself woman. You're the stalker! I trust your threat of not replying to Nicky's post extends to me too? What a relief! Yay! Auf Wiedersehen Fraulein! Posted by dickie, Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:49:47 PM
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*I'd say that's a very accurate assessment you've made of AA and their affiliations *
I think you have made a bluder as AA wasnt mentioned. But now you raise it its very clear- and has been for a long long time this is where its coming from IMOP. Dickie you are on record saying you knew nobody at Animals Australia and made comments as a member of the public only. Of course I knew that most of your comments were pretty much coppied from their site. Then you blew your cover by leaving your address contact at Animals Australia. All messages may be left at AA you posted. ( With a warning to Yabby not to bother trying etc.. You know its a funny thing because I few weeks ago an email arrived. I opended it and it was a bla bla on Glenyse. When i contacted the uni who had put it up for a meeting they said they most certainly did not send it. It seems to somebody went to all the trouble of copyiong the doc and then just posting that part to us. No prise for guessing who. pathetic. Agreed Dickie we will not post replies to you either BUT be warned if you attack our organisation we will take steps to put an end to it once and for all. Tell your friends their little army didnt make them look too good at all. Anybody who can read knows there`s been a clear agenda - and most guess where from. So its agreed we will not post to each other- Nicky Dickie or PALE make sure you stick to it. Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Monday, 26 January 2009 12:32:16 AM
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Hey, Dickie, another load of unsubstantiated, baseless claptrap, I see, this time with you as the target of the threats and abuse. I can't wait to see what the "steps" to be taken might be {pity about the "bluder" and the "prise" ...
PALE, you never shut up about Animals Australia or Glenys Oogjes. What does it matter if Dickie, or anyone else, does or doesn't know anyone there, for God's sake? I've already said that I met Glenys Oogjes once at the Animal Law Conference at UNSW in July 2007 (to which PALE couldn't be bothered sending representation; maybe it would all have been above the intellectual grasp of anyone at PALE, whose memberhip would probably fit in a phone box); however it was a landmark conference which anyone worth knowing in the movement attended. Speaking of stalking, Dickie, I fear you are correct, PALE stalks both of us relentlessly. My ship thread seems to have escaped its attentions though. Strange for an organisation claiming to be at the forefront of reforming the live export industry, or just simple ignorance? Do us all a favour, PALE, and MOVE ON. Nicky Posted by Nicky, Monday, 26 January 2009 2:01:42 AM
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I make the following statement in defence of RSPCA QLD and to some extend RSPCA in general.
It is not to be taken as a response to posters tagged Nicky Dicky who follow the vegetarian ideology and who are opposed to RSPCA there for also our organisation as we work in conjunction on the live Animal Exports. The RSPCA have a difficult job. They are the only hands on organisation in Australia responding to thousands of complaints for Animal abuse. Their staff is stretched beyond belief. Most work many extra hours without pay because of their dedication to animals. RSPCA are NOT ignoring appalling conditions in pig or battery hens. Here is there long standing position on such matters. http://www.rspcaqld.org.au/campaigns/batteryhens/ http://www.rspcaqld.org.au/campaigns/consumersguide.htm They are powerless to do much because the Governments have kept them without powers to just walk in. Even if they could the Government have passed legislation that animals may be kept in areas so tiny they can not move. The RSPCA CAN NOT act outside the law and have pleaded with all groups for many years to get behind them and lobby the Government for better laws. Sadly instead of other groups getting behind the RSPCA to support them to lobby Government for improvements some have spent almost twenty years trying to overide them for their own personal agendas. RSPCA have told these people. If you break and enter premises and tress pass we can not take these complaints to court. Most of the public think RSPCA are just allowed to enter premises to inspect such places as abattoirs and intensive farms. This is not the case. In an attempt to do something for the animals they have managed to work with some people in the industry but not all. RSPCA QLD considers each barn bird is one less in cages. While nobody said its perfect without much tougher laws they are powerless. Working WITH the industry instead of against them gives us hope. Protesting against people animal products sets Animal Welfare back and plays into the hands of the cruel operators and intensive industry. Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Monday, 26 January 2009 11:16:40 AM
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The RSPCA is at odds in some states with the REAL animal advocates because it fails in its statutory duty. For that it deserves to be exposed. No-one has a problem with it if it does its job.
There has never, to my knowledge, been a report of any disharmony amongst other groups, most of whom are members of Animals Australia (straight from its website). Some work differently from others, but their focus is the same; that's why they are in harmony. It is only PALE which cannot get along with anyone, and leave them alone to do their work without making continued and consistent attempts to discredit them.
If the RSPCA wants to be associated with PALE, does it also want to be seen to be profiteering from slaughterhouses? Probably. It seems to have no problem ignoring appalling abuses on pig, battery hen and broiler farms. Come to think of, it, nor does PALE. Nor does it bother attending live export ship loadings to enforce State legislation in WA (where Animals Angels picks up the slack), SA and Victoria.
Those are the differences, and that is where any disharmony is.
Nicky