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Fractelle said, “It is when a person believes in something that has no evidence at all and does not question or scrutinise the superstition, that people's health - mental and physical may be compromised.”
Pelican said something similar.
And I say Amen to that.

“take your ridicule on copper”
Questioning a myth about copper bracelets is not the same as criticising the metal itself.
I love the copper ornaments I inherited from my Grandmother, but I’m not hanging them around my neck because I belief they are good for my health.

“we all have the inner god[sustaining us to live”
We do? I thought that was called a brain :+)

Examinator,
Is your article on line? I love the way you creatively saved your reputation, very crafty!
If you can guess my star sign, have a go (perhaps I’ll let you have 12 guesses) but…I won’t be falling for your Rising Sign Theory/rescue now that you’ve told us your secret!

RObert,
Ah The Secret, I forgot all about that!
I don’t know much about what The Secret promises, but what you say about it sounds reasonable.

Re miraculous healings, yes I think that for that to occur, a person must have strong faith in whatever the method/medicine is. That’s why scientists place importance on the placebo effect and double or triple blind controlled trials are needed to sort out the science from the mumbo-jumbo. There's always a percentage in every group that heal because of the placebo effect and these must be excluded from the results.

Although I think that it’s wonderful when beliefs, rational or not, help people heal, at the same time I want to recognise that these healing methods are not scientific or reliable.

While they work for some, their success totally and only depend on the strength of the person’s faith, not on an external cause.

I.e. If prayer has worked for someone, it is not evidence that God exists, it is a sign that this person’s belief, rational or irrational, was strong enough for the placebo effect to occur.

continued...

Hi Poly,
Nice to see you have a good sense of humour despite your injuries! My husband does (and teaches) karate and he’s been limping for weeks. I thought that sport was meant to keep people fit&healthy but hey, what do I know!

Hasbeen,
Whether Global warming is caused by humans or not doesn’t concern me all that much because the big picture tells me that we have to make sure we can sustain ourselves in the future. A cleaner environment is always a better outlook than a polluted one and offers a better future for our children, not?
Do you have any irrational belief besides Global Warming denialism?

Thank you, Foxy,
Yeah, I’m really enjoying all of everyone’s contributions and many crack me up, but I’m getting frustrated with the posting limits.
Funny about the belly dancing, but let me pacify you by saying that there’s truth in the belief that laughter is good medicine!
I once got all entangled in a long scarf that we had to use in one of the dances.

Chainsmoker,
Now you’ve caused me to imagine hordes of old people with bony, green wrists! For some reason they look much like old Simpson characters, like Mr Burns and Homer’s dad. Doh, it's bedtime and I'll dream about the green wrists!

Yes, greed most probably is the motivator for scammers and quacks.
But like those village witches, there are also people who are motivated by compassion for others, or perhaps for acceptance or recognition, and for a better chance to be included in the community.
I think it feels naturally good to help others. I wonder sometimes it’s for selfish reasons when I help someone because it feels like a reward to see that what I did or said made them happy.
Similar to buying your child a Christmas present and watch them open it.

Nutbush- I love it!

No dear Foxy..boxing is rather limited :) i'ts KICKboxing.. wham bam thankyou maam.... but usually it's me who is getting whammed and bammed :) I do it for the cardio mainly.. if it gets a bit serious I back off.
In boxing you have 2 weapons -fists..in KB (and most other martial arts) you have... (counts)..8. - Fists, elbows, knees, feet. Getting them all to work together can be quite a challenge :)

I've never been as fit as I am now.. not even when I was a 20 yr old.
Speaking of which.. during that age period and playingAussie rules they allllways put me on the half back flank.. zippo chance of scoring :) just hold the fort and spill ur guts while the others get the glory. Once I decided to 'stamp my mark' on a game and saw an opportunity.. so.. from the HBF I did 2 or 3 bounces having a reasonably clear run to the goal and bingo..kicked one aaaah.. applause and praise.. got man of the match.. people conveniently forgot that I did it in flagrant violation of my 'position' :)
So...I do the KB as a thing where I can develop my own skill and there is NOOOOo "half back flank" in it hahahah..

COPPER.. again/still.. yes.. some people have used bracelets for all kinds of whacky things.. thats my point. Give people a hint of something and they will take it to a surreal level sometimes.
Stick with verified research on that kind of thing.

FENG SHUI..I think I'll be naughty and develop a study guide "Christian FENG SHUI" :) should cause a stir at the next elders meeting...

Bronwyn, Celvia
There is a sad side to this new age stuff.
Take my eldest daughter (I WAS very young) 35 and suffering from MS prognosis that isn’t that good. Naturally I hope the vagaries of MS will render these prognoses wrong and she will have a near normal life.

The SITUATION
She has taken the new age stuff raw veganism and what is a cross between psychic & mental healing. She now sees Her MS as not a physical reality but one of her personal negativities. Now that she’s cleared these blockages she “IS clear of her MS”. And now refuses to seek medical care, medication claiming that all the physical issues (scaring on her Mylar) are the same in many normal people but don’t affect them. (Because the purveyor told her). Her MS symptoms, lack of concentration, blurring of sight and speech, etc are simply her slipping back into her negative ways.
She is not a fool or uneducated being both a talented artist and has a degree in teaching.

The CONUNDROM
do I ?:-
• Impress upon her the need to restart her medication/medical treatment?
• Accept that she’s old enough to make her decisions even though she maybe shortening her active life and hastening her sad degeneration into a nursing home?
This is an ethical problem many people face in many forms and perceived intensities i.e. If think I know the truth about religion do I force it on others or do I respect their rights to their views.
You don’t get Mickey Mouse tails for guessing which way I’ve gone and why. Even though I’m not happy with the consequences. No parent expects to bury their child let alone let it happen.
The difference between my mischief and the purveyor’s was/is I never deliberately hurt any one nor did get involved unless I genuinely felt there was a connection. One could say that I was her mother’s pawn. (Long story) I missed out on my daughter’s growing up. Like I said Karma’s revenge.

Dear examinator,

It appears that from your relationship with your daughter,
and from my husband's experience with his parents, it would
be advisable no matter how difficult it may be for you
to stay out of your daughter's attempt at coping with
her own problem.

It might help your daughter if she has someone she trusts,
(a close friend or relative),
to give her guidance to steer her in the right direction
towards professional help that she would accept.

No matter what her decision, it would be best not to
interfere but at all times support her and be there for her.

Her life has taken its course - and no matter what the past,
it has to complete its journey. Any interference on your part
will only bring out the negative and make cause more harm.

In the meantime don't be too hard on yourself. You're a caring
man with a big heart, and I'm sure that your daughter knows
this.

All The Best,

ok egsaminator im confused
by your quote

>>..'Now that she’s cleared these blockages she “IS clear of her MS”.

And now refuses to seek medical care, medication' ..<<

i know it SEEMS clear
but has she symptoms now?
or not

this is not really stickybeaking
only an excuse to post this link
[i googled up on the topic
[in my quick research on ms]

[a process im sure your daughter did as soon as she heard]

have you seen this site?
http://www.ms-success.com/

i know what your going through
[i suspect we got the wrong daughters]
mine thinks like you

recently she had gall stone surgery
despite my revealing the cure to her;
[ie some vineger to soften the stones
followed by virgin olive oil
containing fats that force the gall bladder to express the stones [naturally] as well as lubricate their passage.

but she decided on the knife
[and wouldnt discuss the issue further]
so i accept her right to do as she feels led to chose
she has heard all my debait

we cant run their lives forever [apparently]
we can just love that they think for themselves

however right or wrong we feel them to be

its the disease that is the enemy
not that delightfull spirit god gave us oh so briefly

[we are spirits having a bodily incarnate experience]
i must live mine
and let her live hers