response to celia
>>It is unfortunate that the concept of evolution is often confused with the concept of abiogenesis.<<

this is the new reply from the;Duh-evolutionists

you see a valid science has a begining
[a wild type prototype that BEGINS the process
[and evolution as put forward is a proces
[or rather a theory of a process ,not a science

thus i include evolution with the mumbo jumbo,

while seemingly logical
the actual change between one species into another has not been proved
[thus sans replication and science actually doing some evolving they remain in love with a god free theory ,

even many believers have fallen for the scam,never actually testing the charts we were shown as children

darwins finches WERE ALL finches[so loooks like[ie the plaster cast fossils]really dont prove a thing[thus arnt any proof][no science validation of dna ;no science]

science that cant replicate its THEORY via science method ]isnt science]
[not one living intermediate lives today ,
despite being an improvement?]

look at how many MILLIONS of years to make ape mutate into ape[then in 100,000 years bang along comes man[with hunreds of differences from ape[and this clever ape goes extinct

[while all the other 'NON evolved' apes stay alive[anywonder they are trying to murder the proof via nature genicide
[google up all the types of ape's
[but the clever one goes extinct?duh?

have you forgotten how we were brought into this new age jetson's, lost in space and other science [max well smaRT , JAMES BOND ,type of buzz ,its all about selling us the science godless delusion

[note how many science shows are on tv with murder alone ,or wonder docters its to sell this lie that science [medical doctors and cash and power] are gods

well they arnt
its just the old age mumbop jumbo
replicate before you speculate
on how species speciate

[from ambio genesis to evolving its first evolution
IS PART of the debait]

no DEFINATIVE first mutation
no evolution evolving
an unnamable NOTHING evoving into an unamed nothing isnt definate either ,thus
its not science [thus its mumbo jumbo]

Thank you, Foxy, I had fun, too! :)

OUG,
“a valid science has a begining “
The evolution theory begins with the premise that life already exists. It focuses only on life that exists.
Evolutionists don’t give a hoot how life got there because even if you had proof that a god created life, it wouldn’t affect the evolution theory.

Abiogenesis is concerned with how life originated, about the development of life from non-life.

Again, try not to confuse the two- that’s confusing.
Creationists who fail to understand that are Intelligent Duhsigners.

Anyway, I’d already decided to not discuss evolution vs. creationism here.
I just want you to know that there is a difference between evolution and abiogenesis.

celia belabours a point she initiated

typically for the debate
now she dont wany to explain[see last post]

yet her quotes
>>..people, who do not ‘believe’ in evolution, do not know enough about evolution. Evolution has not been unproven..>>

one would think the ONUS is to prove your theory

not for us to disprove
YOUR theory

but your nonsense has no bound
>>..and the theory is very unlikely to be disproved....<<

a double negative isnt a proof

as stated
YOU prove YOUR theory

regardless the theory has been rebutted in many ways
never the less the point remains for one to prove THEIR science[if science it is claimed to be]
not to mindlessly define non rebuttal as any true proof of the theory

#but you offer more opinion as proof

..>>If uni students don’t want to accept evolution,then the area they study must not be,in any way,related to studies that include evolution theory aspects,like Biology...<<

how condecending
REVEAL your proof

to quote you again
>>..must not be,
in any way,
related to studies that include evolution theory aspects, like Biology...<<

ok please explain where biology[a valid science DEPENDS on any real science encompased in this THEORY?there is none]

>>..If the evolution theory is as invalid as creationists say..<<

its not our science [its YOUR theory]

no one says speculation or theorising is not valid
but claiming the theory to be a valid science
explain what sciences

[publish the whole science of evolution
or accept it is a theoretical speculation
taught to children

replicate even A SINGLE evolution
[a science MUST be able to replicate it theory
USING the theory ,to guide us into science
[if it is science at all]

but more PROOF
>>..then why is it that none of them has been able to disprove it..<<

SO YOU KEEP SAYING
yet YOUR opinion is no sure proof
[a science MUST BE faulsifiable
[aint that a clever word meaning proven!

>>..the wold is only 6000 years old..<<
PLEASE POINT OUT WHERE THIS IS STATED IN THE BIBLE?

Dear OUG.... I'm willing to bet that if the word limit per post was 2500 words.. every one of your posts would be that long :)

Ok..teasing aside.. I'm most curious about your actual faith?

Would you mind putting a position statement out there for us?

Does your faith have any particular name? Like..Bahai...Christian..Muslim.. Buddhist etc?

Help us out here.....please.

Celivia.."Punk Shui" ? hahaha.. good 1 indeed!

Hi Poly,
Believe in or not, Punk Shui really exists.
Such a shame, because I was deluded into thinking that I was the original inventor of the word and idea. My inspiration was my son’s very messy room.
I thought it would be fun to write an article on Punk Shui and submit it to a House&Garden magazine.
But when I checked I found out that it was too little too late; someone had already written a book on it, titled, “Punk Shui: Home Design for Anarchists.”
They did a great job, nothing I could improve on.
Too little too late for me- there goes my 5 minutes of fame :)

OUG,
Like Poly, I’m curious about the brand of your religion/denomination.
When I said that I’m not going to debate evolution vs. creationism on this thread, you ignored it.

I set up this thread to have some fun while looking at (and criticising) all the New Age mumbo-jumbo we come across and wanted to make the point that we have to remain skeptical.
I didn’t set out to talk in detail about religion, atheism, evolution or creationism because I thought there had been enough discussions on that already and there are regular opportunities to discuss these topics.
Anyway, I noticed that you have your own thread now. I’ve haven’t had enough time yet but I’ll try to find some time to read Poly’s monkey thread and your new thread tonight and may or may not decide to post there, depending on what has already been said by others.

This video explains some basics of science, e.g. what a hypothesis is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf5rf7oXu5o