Banjo if you can not see and feel the changes in Australia you are not qualified to discus politics.
The demented dwarf John Howard is now joined on the bench by the worst leader America ever had.
Unfortunately he was able to serve out his term, but like Johny short bottom had to watch his rejection by his people.
You appear much like a freind of mine, proud to say he did not know the election was on, missed the Melbourne cup, never knew it was on.
But holds firm views on every thing based on what?
America and Australia have more in common now.
Both have great young leaders who will make a difference.

I'm not an Australian citizen, but if I was I'd be a Labour voter, and I think John Howard was a failed Prime Minister, especially in his last term. Mr Rudd is a brilliant Prime Minister who's shown himself to be intellectually superior in debate, compared to the complaining rabble that is now the remains of the Liberal Party.

But, calling an ex prime Minister "demented dwarf" and "Johny (sic) short bottom" (you really should learn how to spell, Belly) only reflects on the maturity and intelligence of Belly, and NOT Mr Howard. Belly's abuse and name calling is about as dumb as it gets , and I can understand if nobody takes him seriously. He needs to grow up a bit, although it sounds like he's a old man. He should probably get out more and smell the flowers.

You can have your opinions, as may I.
And I will not take back one word.
Howard earned my contempt, he went to war with me and those I work for with work choices.
Than man hurt, truly hurt thousands of people who voted for him.
Kids showing Enterprise working in part time jobs had wage cuts to dreadful levels.
You have not done bad your self with insults yes I am past middle age, is it a sin?
You would never ever dare to talk to me like that face to face.
But if you put too much value on your own thoughts and under value your opponents you are twice defeated,I heaped praise on Howard he is far worse than that.
Children over board, AWB workchoices, calling Obama the terrorists choice, refusing to say sorry,lies about Iraq, contempt for his own team when they asked him to leave.
The list is long too long and history will judge him like it or not my party and Rudd its leader have much to do to fix the mans damage to this country it will be done.
By the way I am indeed past middle age, after all that has to be about 35 as few live past 70, I am fit and active and shamefully in your childlike view 63 years of age.

Hang on Banjo - Obama's election if nothing else, has given a lot of people,both black and white all over the world, Hope and Joy .

While ever Australians are fighting overseas, his thinking, and that of America will be important now and in the future.

You can vote for local political change to change your neighbourhood .

katiya jim,
Yes this US presidential election has given many hope and indeed joy, but I suspect it will be short lived. Not because of the man himself or because he is a Democrat, but because America will continue as it always has. Maybe a few cosmetic changes but little substantial or practical change.

As I said before,12 months since we voted for change and nothing has happened. Single pensioners are still struggling, NT intervention is still in place, Aboriginal kids are still being abused, poorly fed and uneducated. Boat people have arrived and guess what, we have them in detention. Election promises are not worth a bumper. They said they would use the navy to stop the whale killing but soon pulled the pin on that.

Yes I am cynical, and I have been around politics and politicians too long not to be. Politicians basicly revel in power and are in it for their own benefit. Former politician Graham Richardson said it all with his quote of "Whatever it takes" They have no morals and will sell out the country for their own benefit. Public servants jobs and services in NSW to go, but do not expect to see pollys pay cut or their lurks and perks go.

The financial crisis in the US will have far more effect on America
and the rest of the world than the change in the Preidential position. What actions will be taken because of that would be done irrespective of who the President is or what party he belongs to

Belly,
I think you have let yourself get carried away a bit. I see from your last post that you and i are of about the same vintage, so we both have seen a lot of politicians and politics.

Years ago I allowed myself to sucome to hope for a 'better world' but the many disapointments have dashed that. The false promises,lies and self interest of politicians, of all sides, I have seen and from what i have seen in many posts of yours, you have also. Not to mention the deceit and coruption from those held in high esteem.

It seems to me that it is only the rank and file members of political parties that are genuine and actually work for a better Australia.

That is why I was surprised by your comments of a 'better world' and 'this great leader'. Bit early dont you think?

I have you picked as an old Labor war horse, level headed, with both feet on the ground and I respect you for that. I leave the euphoria for the young.