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Barack Obama: anti-Christ or just a Muslim?
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belly how right you are, and all this after 12 pages of nonsence.
Posted by JMCC, Sunday, 16 November 2008 4:22:24 PM
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david f,
The website http://www.historyofjihad.com/ is not a hate website, neither is its mission to demonise Muslims, but rather to speak the truth about Islam through what had happened in history. The West seems to have forgotten the conflict between Islam and the Hindus of India, which had gone on for centuries. Anwar Shaikh was a devout Muslim from India who killed one Hindu and two Sikhs for the cause of Islam. At 25 he regretted what he did and left Islam altogether. In 1973, he made it his mission to tell the world the true nature of Islam. http://www.islam-watch.org/AnwarSheikh/index.html Commenting on one of his books, Shaikh said, “My book has a relevance to entire mankind, but is especially to India because before the coming of Islam, India was a prosperous, peaceful and proud country, which has not only been reduced to extreme poverty and ignorance by the Muslim predators and the Islamic rule, but has also been fragmented into geographical and political units. This book clearly demonstrates that, as Islam seeks to impose Arab cultural imperialism on other nations through a doctrine of divide and murder, India and Islam cannot live together. This book is a must for India.” It was documented by Senator Edward Kennedy that 2.5 million Hindus were killed in East Pakistan in the 1970s. http://www.hinduhumanrights.org/Bangladesh/kennedy.htm http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/hindu_bangla.html This incident was brought up under the title “The Pakistani Slaughter That Nixon Ignored , Syndicated Column by Sydney Schanberg, New York Times, May 3, 1994. The website traced how Muslims systematically killed off Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh until they only form a few percent of the population. http://www.hvk.org/articles/0401/64.html It is not surprising that after 61 years of independence from Britain, Pakistan and Bangladesh are failed states. Islamic fundamentalism runs deep in the country, polygamy, hatred for all things non-Islamic, discrimination against women, hate speech spewing from mosques, all stands in the way of peace and progress. Zulfikar Khan has put together many articles showing how Hindus were systematically killed in many parts of India over the years. http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/ Posted by Philip Tang, Sunday, 16 November 2008 9:23:26 PM
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Yet another post that screams at me man needs no religions.
While I will not live to see it, IF religion does not kill us all, we one day will have such a world. One that sees no difference between humans, one that truly understands the miracle of life is for every human. One that finds no need to express joy or fear that a man of color is now the leader of America. Please do not quote your holy book to me, just answer this question. Was God intending us to be divided like this? Did he make some men so they could forever be the enemy of the rest? What Right do any of us have to say only our God is the one? Posted by Belly, Monday, 17 November 2008 4:00:57 AM
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Dear Philip,
Islam does have a bloody record. However, what gets me is the idea that Christianity with its Inquisition, Crusades, conversion by force, Wars of the Reformation and the Holocaust can somehow with its own bloody record feel superior. I quote again from the site "The Muslims have done this and still do it and shall continue to do so, till we physically terminate all off them before they can destroy human civilization." When one calls for genocide as that website you cited does that is a hate site. Dear Belly, Your contention that we would be better off without religion may well be right. However, humans seem to want nonsense. Astrology, religion, ideology whatever. There seems to be a need to believe in unprovable propositions rather than accept the fact that we live in an uncertain world where we are just another species. If we propagate more than a reasonable amount we will suffer. We may label the unknowable as God, historical necessity - whatever. We have to live with believers in religion, and it is not a realistic hope that we can escape it. Posted by david f, Monday, 17 November 2008 6:33:20 PM
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Wow. Did that site really make that comment? Calling for them to be wiped out?
What unbridled idiocy. Frankly, it reduces the site to precisely what it criticises and makes anyone who would quote from it look rather stupid. BTW guys, you know what I'd rate as the absolute, last thread topic, of anything in the entire world, that this site needs? The one this one's become. Honestly, this consistent descent into matters Christian vs Muslim borders on the pathological in its frequency. Tang, to address your topic-related commentary (to hell with this Christian V Muslim crap. Enough already) - the first point I'd make, was that when Obama's campaign was in its infancy, in the earliest days when finance was crucial and corporations could really get their foot in the door with donations, Obama ended up raking it in from a multitude of smaller donations. Yes, it appears he's taken some larger ones, however that's the case for all the candidates, and I'd say on reflection that Obama's less likely to have been 'bought' as it were than other candidates, given that the donations are spread more widely - if we think of influence as a % of money donated to his campaign, then there are no significantly huge contributors, it's spread too thin. None of them can claim any kind of monopoly. Besides, if it's accountability we're after, I'd say things are already looking better, judging by the standards required of prospective applicants for an Obama administration: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24650517-5013948,00.html Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Monday, 17 November 2008 11:36:22 PM
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Turn right then left I quoted from it.
But I never read that quote. I visited the site because I search for answers. I constantly want to be informed on issues. It did not answer my questions nor did it impress me all that much. It seems to be a collection of letters and statements from alleged ex Muslims. It had hate history things in posts but it never told me why SOME Muslims hate the rest of us so much. It did not silence my fears that a war will come because of hate. It did not take away my concerns at past Christian acts just as bad. Or Jewish ones. And my search for answers may take me to worse sites but my one question needs answers. Why do so many need to kill in the name of a God? How can any one think that the God they worship is better than the others God? or in truth that a God demands blood in this century just as much as the most primitive ones did century's ago? Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 5:12:14 PM
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