TEAM... we seem to have drifted from the topic.

Katie..thanx for the fill in.(PTL:)

Bronny.. regarding the ultimate sin of unbelief. The point here is that the Gospel..which is primarily about salvation...a positive message...is a coin with two sides. You cannot have salvation unless you also have it's opposite.

The fate of unbelievers is spelt out in scripture, and there is considerable emphasis on the fact that it is we who in fact judge ourselves.. or.. the words the Lord spoke are our judge..not now, but when we face Him.

<<47"As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. 48There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day.>>

During this life, we have choice. Some choose to follow the Lord..others choose to reject Him. It's a free country.

Yes..there is a dividing line between those who follow Christ and those who do not. But in spite of the passion of debate here, and frequent disagreement, Gibo, Runner, Katie and I all absolutely care about you. We fumble at times in expressing things.

TOPIC
We are even free to decide democratically whether we want the Lords prayer opening Parliament. At the present time, the momentum of the democractic process appears to support the retention of the prayer.

This topic is as dead as Jesus.

Bugsy

"This topic is as dead as Jesus."

LOL!

Poly's hoping to resurrect it.

You two are going to burn in Hell. I'll bring the marshmallows.

You'll need a fair few, CJ, I think there's going to be a lot of us down there.

Strange how Katie0 and Poly/Boaz actually believe that you can be made to believe something, for which there is no evidence, by threat.

"You are eternally damned, if you don't believe...." insert whatever biblical commandment.

Poly & Katie if you were commanded to believe that the sun sets in the east and rises in the west by your religion, would you do so? Even you would have difficulty with the mental gymnastics required for that request. No doubt you would claim it as a parable rather than to be taken seriously.

That you condemn everyone else for not believing in something that cannot be proved is very childish and not a little intolerant, and is why you cannot even countenance the question of relevance of the LP at parliament. You can't provide a good reason for its continuation because there is no reason. Instead you threaten others and make the absurd claim that belief is a choice.

Therefore, I continue to believe that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west - there is evidence every day for that conviction. There is nothing supporting your empty threat; that disbelief is a sin. If that is true then eating shellfish (Leviticus 11.9), banking (Deuteronomy 23.19) and wearing mixed fibre clothing (Deuteronomy 22.11) are also sins - you'd better watch out for those cotton/poly fabrics or face eternal agony.

Have a hate-free day.