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Dear Bronwyn,

I've just re-read your posts on the Bali
bombers. Sorry, I didn't mean to be
so frivolous.

My personal stand on the death penalty has always been
that its not about deterrence. But about retribution.
About society's revenge on a person who takes
another person's life.

Whether such retribution is justified is not a
matter of measureable facts. It is a moral
judgement for each individual to make.

Some people feel that those who kill others
should pay the supreme penalty and forfeit their own
lives, others feel that human life is sacred and that
society is demeaned when the state kills, however grave
their offense.

I never favoured the death penalty, but I do admit
that the Bali bomber's grinning faces - irked the
heck out of me. Thus my reaction on the other
thread. But - you're right of course. When reason
returned - my hysteria died down.

As for religious teachings on forgiveness?
Mea Culpa.

Of course - to forgive your enemies -
is one of the basic teaching of Christianity.

Can I still get a marshmallow?

Are we using commercial marshallow holders or should I bring some sticks from the garden.

Katie, a little challenge for you. Set aside an hour broken up into two half hour slots.

Start with runners posting history (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/user.asp?id=25098&show=history) and read as many of his post in that half hour as you can. Then come back and using as much of a vow as you can tell us that you really believe that runner is not trying to alienate unbelievers and nothing about his posts deserves correction from other believers.

If you can pull that off move onto Gibo's posting history and spend the second half hour there. Come back and tell us all that you don't believe that any of Gibo's claims are not worthy of correction by fellow christains.

In my time on OLO the only other christain with what appears to be fundy leanings who I've seen challenge Gibo on a point of theology was Philo. I suspect that Philo's views would not be shared on the topic by most fundies.

My guess is that given David's (Polycarp) claims of bretho involvement many of Gibo's claims would be contrary to David's understanding of biblical teaching.

"Tossing a few well-chosen biblical passages out as a rebuke (like scraps to a dog) is a fairly empty gesture from those who don't believe the words came from God in the first place. "

Not at all. Those who loudly proclaim their belief in a literal interpretation of scripture and claim to follow it as well as trying to convince others to do so should be held accountable where they clearly fail to follow what they proclaim.

R0bert

I cannot understandhow the moderator is letting you lot from airing your views on Biblican passages and other theological topics UNRELATED to the simple question of the suitability of the Lord's Prayer in our Parliament!

You lot are clean off the point and irrelevant.

socratease

Dear socratease,

Re-read my earlier posts.

When I was sticking to the topic you called me
a 'nutter.'

Lighten up old chum.

At least ONE of you - Foxy - has owned to be off the subject.So have all the others.

And yes,Foxy, from all you have said , you are a mild nutter compared to some others with all this talk about MARSHMALLOWS et al. No other website would allow such aberrations. Waffle.That is all it is.

What a waste of space.

socratease

socratease, you are apparently bothered by posts which are not strictly on topic yet you appear to have made 5 posts on this thread with only two of them touching on the topic (and one of those starting with "Some of the outpourings of evangelical conservative Christians make me wantto puke.it is hard to keep reading the gibberish that comes out of their threads.")

The other three that I could find were entirely off topic. By the way the marshmallow thing is a gentle payout at the fundies for their gods plans to burn the rest of us in hell.

It's often an uncertain line about how far off topic a comment and discussion can go. You will find plenty of discussions (especially in the general area) which drift significantly from the original topic. Sometimes that seems to be a waste and at other times it can be very productive. Relax, if you don't like the off topic components ignore them and give us some more suggestions on what our pollies could be doing for inspiration. Some of your earlier suggestions were good.

Your attacks on off topic comments after your own use of them on this thread don't make a lot of sense.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2242#48603
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2242#49208
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2242#49605
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2242#49622
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2242#49627

R0bert