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Parliament and the Lords Prayer.

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The Lord's Prayer is not that long, and those Members of Parliament who don't believe could not take part. Consider what's in the Lord's Prayer. If it doesn't do any good, what harm does it do?

Whether you believe in God or not, our Constitution does acknowledge God.
Posted by Steel Mann, Monday, 27 October 2008 11:14:05 AM
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Hi Spikey.
Both China and Indonesia have plans for the invasion of Australia. All they are waiting for is the right world climate. The Bibles endtimes will provide that climate. Whether or not the Hand of God stops an invader... is up to us.

If the nation is up to its neck in sin...we wont be getting Gods Staying Hand. Lots of prayer stopped the Japanese from getting here.
I believe it.

..and what is sin?

Abortion, homosexuality, idolatry (the love of junk tech), the political attempt (Labor/Greens) to overthrow God, Queen and Constitution, drugs, drunkenness. the great falling away from the Word of God and the Christian churches, violence and apathy (even to our our defence), blasphemy and on it goes....
Gods the Creator and He expects our attention on Jesus the Sacrifice to avert Judgment.

I really think the invader will be China if one is coming.
Though a fool takes his eyes of Indonesia.
All of the land north of Townsville they call SOUTH IRIAN. Ive heard they have already been here storing up arms on Australian soil...though I didnt get a confirmation.
Posted by Gibo, Monday, 27 October 2008 11:40:39 AM
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Why not a simple animal sacrifice as an offering to appease whatever Gods may be overseeing proceedings in the House that day? That way we can cover all bases and leave nobody out (depending on which way God usually votes).

The wearing of amulets to ward off the "evil eye" of members of the opposition is also an option that may need to be revisited.

We've come such a very long way in the last couple of millennia in shaking off the superstitions of the past.

It's a total non-issue. If you want to pray, then pray. If you don't - then don't. Making it a compulsory act is only reducing it to a hollow token gesture.
Posted by wobbles, Monday, 27 October 2008 12:43:05 PM
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Faith is a personal thing. Gone are the days where you HAD to scream the loudest for fear of being burned at the stake.

Taking the Lord's Prayer out of parliament is about as denouncing Christ as it is if you did the same at an under 7's footy match.

A lot of what that has gone wrong in history is a direct result of church and State combining policy. People who scream the loudest about faith being taken out of societal 'institutions' may need to reassess their REAL reasons for 'believing'. Save yourself, let the universe sort the rest out.
Posted by StG, Monday, 27 October 2008 1:54:54 PM
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Hi Gibo,

You say: "Both China and Indonesia have plans for the invasion of Australia." Are these plans found in the Bible or did you FOI our security forces?

You also say: "All of the land north of Townsville they call SOUTH IRIAN. Ive heard they have already been here storing up arms on Australian soil...though I didnt get a confirmation." So that fact wasn't in the Bible?

You also say: "Lots of prayer stopped the Japanese from getting here." What happened to the US (you know, General McArthur, Battle of the Coral Sea, the Kokoda Track, and all that)?

You also say "..and what is sin?" And your answer includes "(Labor/Greens) to overthrow God, Queen and Constitution". So we're stuck with the monarchy until God says otherwise? And referenda to change the constitution are sinful? I can't see how the ALP and the Greens could overthrow God. Or would the Indonesians and Chinese collaborate with them on that?

Fascinating stuff, Gibo.
Posted by Spikey, Monday, 27 October 2008 2:06:57 PM
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I probably differ from some Christians here. I see no point in offering a prayer acknowledging the only True God and then passing legislation to murder babies or promote immorality. This kind of thinking is more in line with the earth worshipers who have their own fake outward morality. Let those who want to pray to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ do so and allow the heathens to bow to their dead gods.

Though any honest person can see that the adoption of Christian values led to people being educated and the sick and elderely being cared for we are now more influenced by god haters who would prefer the fruit of securalism (immorality, drug usage, homosexuality, teen pregnancy, violence etc) in order to maintain their own rights. The prayer for many (not all) of our politicians is symbolism at best.
Posted by runner, Monday, 27 October 2008 3:18:57 PM
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