Anonymum, please realise that there are a few self professed feminists posting on this thread who jointly have quite a bit of personal experience with physical injuries resulting from domestic violence, or a term I've recently come across and I think I prefer, Intimate Partner Violence.

To me it is also rather amusing for you to think that Fractelle and Robert are such friends that Fractelle would support anything Robert says. You obviously have not read many threads!

I do not doubt that perpetrators of abuse would endeavour to continue their need for dominance over their partner and/or family and that they would continue to try and manipulate the legal system.

The issue is that when people come before the court it is always a case of 'he says..., he did...', she says...., she did...'. One party is lying, but I'm afraid I cannot believe that this is dominated by men. I personally know of one woman who did terrible things to her son and very convincingly lied to the court. Proof was very hard. Because children are not independently represented and children are not independently assessed by any psychologist.

I maintain, as I've said before: if any couple need to avail themselves of the court in relation to their children, NOT their assets, the asumption needs to be made that there are some serious problems, that both parties have a vested interest in presenting a particular personally favourable viewpoint.

Our court system is adversarial in nature. It is NOT about determining the truth. It is about one party winning and the other losing.

My opinion has always been that this a singularly poor way of determining the best interests of children. One parent 'loses', but the children always lose.

Issues of child abuse, by either parent will only come to light by INDEPENDENT determination from the CHILD'S perspective.

If we must use the legal system then at least lets put everything in place that will make the child the winner.

Again the whole point of child safety is completely lost in the pro contact culture and the superficial concept of equality.
Ignorance is a predators dream and a child's nightmare.

Anonymum, what do you suggest the Family Court can do about alleged abuse if there is no evidence? It seems to me that your whole argument is based on "I'm the mum, therefore I can't be wrong", which is not a strong basis for a legal matter.

As one who has been the victim of false allegations in the context of a custody dispute, I have first-hand experience of the draconian measures that are applied to the father simply for the asking by the mother. My experience leads me to the conclusion that if you are unable to make even the minimal case necessary to have a DVO applied, then you are not likely to be telling us a true story, or at least that the story you are presenting is not complete.

As you refuse to provide any evidence of your claim that abuse is widespread and that the Family Court somehow profits by condoning it, I can only conclude that your imagination is very active. No doubt the Courts you have dealt with have reached a similar conclusion.

Antiseptic,
Your statement reflects the problems and the deceit behind violence supportive attitudes.
I am writing about evidential child abuse being ignored, yet you try to swing the argument back to false allegations. Its very revealing.
I think we have all heard the same lines over and over again of the concocted story that false allegations are made by every mother. Anonymums know that this is a group strategy to conceal child abuse on a systematic level, we know the criminals behind these groups and have evidence of their charges, we will continue to expose this as it is indeed a public interest. There is nothing that you can say that will manipulate the truth, as I know exactly how psychopaths work.

Anonymum, I can state with absolute certainty that false allegations of violence can and do happen and that the process is quite draconian for the one accused. It therefore seems likely that the same could be said of other forms of abuse allegation, particularly claims of abuse of children. The fact that there is no court willing to entertain your own allegations speaks volumes.

I asked you a question in my last post, which you didn't answer. What do you propose the Family Court should do in the absence of evidence? I'll add another, since you say there is some evidence: what standard of evidence should apply? Is hearsay sufficient? If so, what is your reasoning and what safeguards against false allegation do you propose? Should penalties be applied to those found to have made false allegations?

Lots of questions there, I know, but they and many others need to be considered if you are seeking any kind of legislative changes. Is that your goal?

The court was not willing to entertain the concerns of "dam dads" ex wife, the police were not willing to entertain Karen Bells concerns. In US where this propaganda began, there is footage of the consequences of dismissing child abuse. Claudine Dombrowski showed the public, how she was shot whilst pregnant and how the family court sent her child to the abuser too. People can only swallow so many lies about why dads don't see their kids, but the truth will shine through - no matter how many bodies are hidden from the public eye. Like the holecaust, the bodies will be found and the perpetrators will face justice.