Hi Celvia,
Anonymums is not "my" website but for a collective of mothers who endured human rights abuses at the wrath of the fathers lobby groups with no support, nothing. If you read on the about page, you will see "We encourage fathers roles in our childrens lives, but not at the cost of their detriment.."

Here is a personal account:
http://www.aic.gov.au/conferences/2003-abuse/abuse.pdf
Here is part of the history from an ex fathers rights supporter:
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/FRtactic.html
Here is the history of fathers rights groups:
http://www.kidsindistress.org.au/files/Kids-in-Distress-the-politics-of-father-rights-activists.php
Here is the laws that support child abuse and coercion against the most vulnerable:
http://anonymums.blogspot.com/2008/10/child-abuse-supportive-laws.html
I would also recommend reading the family court website judgements and search "abuse" violence" Read about Parental Alienation Syndrome. The syndrome that persuaded judges, experts and fueled fathers lobby groups into "abuse - excuse". Search matters of the heart on youtube and hear the account of a child therapist losing her children because of PAS. There needs to be fathers rights that are not violence supportive and child abuse supportive. Fathers rights was at the cost of domestic violence victims rights and children's rights to be safe and free from torture. These groups go out to deliberately undermine laws that protect them. They complained about intervention orders, but the whole time they could have got access through the family courts. It was only when they had ruffled up the feathers of the courts, that they lost access. The courts know this and can do something but choose not too because they make too much money. If one in three women experience violence - How many perpetrators are there? How much money can be made in supporting them?

Anonymum, if you spent a lot less time on your hate sites and actually looked at what most of the fathers groups are seeking rather than at what their opponents say about them you might have some understanding about whats actually happening. Your views about the most of fathers groups are no more balanced than those of the anti-feminist brigade and their distortions of feminism. Both have failings and individuals who go to far but to focus on them rather than where most are coming from is dishonest and damaging.

The fathers groups have no interest in helping actual abusers get access to kids, they do have serious concerns about those who've used false claims of abuse to try and secure better financial outcomes for themselves. They do have concerns about those who continue to trot out the boogy man of male abuse of children and remain utterly quite about the stats on female abuse of children as though it's not there. People abuse children, not just men, not just women. All to often those under stress in other ways.

R0bert

Robert, I have seen enough of the fathers lobby groups agenda to have a good reason to expose the truth about this terrorist like organization. Your right lets hear it from their words shall we?
http://www.mensrights.com.au/index.php?article_id=14
In Richard Gardners own words:
''What I am against is the excessively moralistic and punitive reaction that many members of our society have toward pedophiles ... (going) far beyond what I consider to be the gravity of the crime.''

Dr. Richard Gardner, author
Parental Alienation Syndrome
Vicarious Deprogramming Procedure

A collection of fathers rights groups in their own words:
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/fathers/
This is called the family law web guide, it appears gender friendly, but you need to dig a little deeper to find it. They are careful and warn members that "google can search here" when fathers lobby groups real agenda starts coming out.
This was under "child abuse" as some sort of "prize" supporting parental alienation syndrome aka "How to cover up child abuse".

http://www.familylawwebguide.com.au/library/library/General/47fda5b8eacd7.rtf
The website page also contains other anti protective resources:
http://www.familylawwebguide.com.au/search/isysconcept/Child%20Abuse/
Simon Hunt from the family law action group:
"‘FAMILY VIOLENCE' Be they genuine or contrived, Family Violence allegations and AVOs must not be allowed to compromise a child’s relationship with either parent "
http://www.australia2020.gov.au/submissions/viewTopic.cfm?id=7253&count=1
"parent/child alienation, a very serious form of child abuse" Note: No mention or concerns of physical child abuse.
"a large proportion of male suicides being associated with family law-related problems." Note: He writes this to promote child contact as the cure for mental illness. A complete disregard for the child and clearly promotes the use of emotional blackmail.
Barry Williams Lone Fathers association

Some common actions by fathers in family courts:

1. Asking the mother if they can have children over for an extra day or so, then going to the court and claiming that the mother is not competent to take care of the children and in so doing getting full custody of the kids.

2. Using a racket known as Parental Alienation Syndrome to claim that a child reporting abuse by the father is being manipulated to do so by the mother, resulting in abusive father getting full custody of the child.

3. Claiming that because the mother is working or is educated, she is not being the primary carer, resulting in children being given into custody of the father.

4. Suing the woman whom they have raped to prevent an abortion and to get custody of the child.

5. Murdering the children in order to get back at the mother for leaving.

6. Portraying as hysterical (and hence not competent to take care of kids) any woman who exhibits natural emotions in respect to her children when they are being sexually abused, brutalized, given to custody of abusive parent, threatened with being taken away from her, or subjected to court-ordered abuse.

7. Portraying themselves as victims when they are perpetrators and lying to everyone about the mother, leading people to believe falsely that the problem is with the mother and not with them. The people who believe their facade make no error that the woman had not made in choosing them. Only, unlike the woman, they have not had to face disastrous consequences for having made that error.

8. Alienating the children against the mother, manipulating them to believe all kinds of rubbish about her and not only undermining their relationship with the mother but also trapping them in a world of lies.

Wow! I want some of whatever it is that you're on

This thread is very distateful.

Fathers are as vital in children's lives as mothers. Neither are more or less important.

Shared parenting is the best idea that the family court has come up with so far. It begins to dismantle the whole notion of sole custody, which for some parents is really mainly about who gets the bulk of the money that goes with children. Either receiving or paying it.

If there is a case of child abuse it is first and foremost a matter for the criminal court. If there is a case of child abuse then the prepetrator will be dealt with by that court.

As Celivia did, I looked at all the parts of your web-site. You take on the name, to me you are the spokeperson/owner. Your token bit about encouraging fathers roles in children's lives, though not male, I find insulting in it's dismissiveness.

In regards to the family court, the thing that I would strongly advocate for is that children be represented seperately and independently from either parent. If parents need to resort to the courts to resolve their issues then unfortunately the temptation for some to use their children as pawns to 'win' from the hated other half is too great.