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When Discrimination laws....discriminate.

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Dear Spikey,

Thank You.

You've summed up the feelings of
many of us on the Forum.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:19:37 PM
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I told people to put warning labels on religion. Please note! Don't put any nonreligious parts in christians. It may cause one to nail its self to a cross or explode.

Its obvious that we atheists have more love in our hearts than other religious folk.
Thank you David for hours of fun and entertainment. I am glade one-one takes you too seriously.

All the best to you and your family.

EVO
Posted by EVO, Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:55:27 PM
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Yeah, well said by all. It's interesting and heartening that there is near consensus rejection of Porky's hateful agenda here, no matter how hard he wriggles.

Like Foxy, I think that Spikey's hit the nail on the head, not to mention chainsmoker's positive aspects of the 'Gentle Jesus', with whom I have no quarrel. R0bert's also spot on about so-called 'foundation documents'.

Cue gratuitous biblical quotation, Mozzie-whack or Porkycrap vanishing act...
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:25:06 PM
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Yeah well said, Spikey.

I re-read the article.
“religious groups in Victoria are allowed to discriminate against anyone as long as it is done due to "genuine religious beliefs or principles"
I wonder how the Brethren are going to prove that their beliefs or principles are genuine. They can’t even prove that their God is genuine, let alone their belief in Him.

Pericles,
“Not sharing someone else's totally legal and harmless life choices is one thing. Actively discriminating against them is, however, offensive.”
Definitely, but they will deliberately fail to understand that.

Runner,
Whatthe? The Scripture statement you quoted groups homosexuals together in one sentence with abusers and thieves. Why would you want to repeat such filth?

“Are you Celivia just naive or deliberately misrepresenting the Only One who can save you from your sin?”

And,
“I guarantee I would not be welcome at a 'gay club'.”
Dunno, Runner, I think the gay club would be happy to invite you as an entertainer if you offered.
It doesn’t matter, runner, whether I asked the question because I misrepresent the Only One or because I am naďve, just answer it.

Polycarp,
“The issue about homosexuality which is condemned in the Bible is.. 'behavior'”
So is the bible suggesting that some people have to deny their sexuality and need for a happy relationship while others don’t?

Don’t forget that YOU are a sinner, too. You divorced and remarried and in Luke 16:18 Jesus says:
”Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.”
So you, as a sinner, approves of discrimination against other sinners, even though Jesus said things like, “Stop judging, so that you shall not be judged.”
Learn of him, Polycarp!

Continued
Posted by Celivia, Friday, 12 September 2008 12:09:05 AM
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Polycarp,
It’s easy to tell others how to behave or what to believe; it is far more difficult to leave other people alone and concentrate on your own sins and flaws, and on your own behaviour.

Pericles wonders whether Muslims would be allowed to book at the camp. That would be very interesting to find out.
I wonder if remarried couples or divorcee support groups are allowed to book there. A sin is a sin.
Someone’s brain might explode if they happen to sleep in the same bed as adulterers have been rolling around in.

“I notice a lot of 'retreating' of the mockers”
Not retreating, but explaining to you, since you and runner were the only ones who didn’t “get” the fundies were the mocking target.

RObert,
“It was blatently obvious the main intent was to mock your rediculous "my head would explode" attitude.”
Thanks, that’s exactly right, perhaps the fundies will get it now.
Posted by Celivia, Friday, 12 September 2008 12:12:23 AM
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Err point of order Celivia.. been married to one women for 29 yrs :)

Never been divorced.. I think you are confusing me with someone else.

Spikey... not a bad effort there mate.. I guess that is how people react to the confident assertion of the law, based in a careful reading of a case trial.

Anyway.. bless you for at least attacking 'me' and not the Lord Himself.

Foxy says:

you keep tripping over your
own limited knowledge and biased perceptions.

Christ was inclusive of all individuals.

Dear Foxy, you shouldn't say such things when they aren't true.
Jesus did not 'include' "all" individuals. He denounced some.. in no uncertain terms. Those with the most knowledge... the most light... he denounced most severely. But it was righteous judgement.

Pharisees asked Jesus about him being the Messiah "proooove it/tell us plainly" they said.

25Jesus answered, "I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father's name speak for me, 26but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish;

Which part of "you are not my sheep" is "inclusive of all individuals"

The fact is... homosexual behavior is sinful.. just like adultery (including the mental kind) and theft (even the mental kind)
and Murder (including the mental kind)

The difference is.. these days people wear the 'gay' badge openly..not many of us wear one which says "I want to kill [fill in the name]"

Bit IF...they did... the would quicly wear out their welcome.
Posted by Polycarp, Friday, 12 September 2008 7:12:06 AM
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