I agree with Romany and Pelican - this thread is
unbelievable. The moral outrage is as shallow
as the term "Christian" that's applied here.

Christ was not about exclusion or
selectivity.

Christ would have welcomed a group of young people
from country areas who as The Age article
states, "suffered terrible, sometimes violent
abuse, and high rates of suicide..."
He would have granted them the week-end camp to give
them the much needed break by the beach, where they
could seek support, get counseling, and
discuss how to deal with issues in their home towns.

And these so called "Christians" are exempt from paying
taxes because they're a religious organisation?

This needs to be investigated because this organisation
obviously doesn't behave as one.

They don't seem to practice Christ's basic teachings.

Christianity is about love..a plan of life where we love God and we love people. As a Christian I find it reprehensible that it is used as a cloak for homophobia or in fact vilification of any people considered in any way different or dare I say "sinful". Whether homosexuality is a crime or a sin or even ok is not the point. The point is that people who profess Christianity have an obligation to love ALL... not hate.

On the other hand, surely any private organisation has the right to retrict the use of their facilities to members of their own organisation, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, or even personal belief. Free enterprise represents the capacity to make choices... To demand that a private organisation be required by law to open its doors to all is a restriction to free enterprise. Often in these cases, blacklisting is a more effective form of retribution...where the effect on the hip pocket nerve forces other choices to be made.

On a different tangent though, one might well question the motives of a group of people demanding a facility be opened for their use when they know the owners of that facility do not support their life philosophies.

I would wonder why a group of people would want to patronise any organisation that vilifies them.

I think we may have a record here. Brother Porky seems to have deserted his own thread after only one post.

Admittedly it was a spectacularly silly one, even by his standards.

of course the bretheren will clean the sheets of all "bodily extrusions" from these folk, but the problem does not end there

Pillow Bighters can make a huge mess of pillows and one wonders how fair that is to next user

>Brother Porky seems to have deserted his own thread after only one post<

He's a busy man CJ. What with converting people, being outraged, picking through other people's religious texts in search of nasty bits, attending anti-other people rallies, chatting over lattes with his new best friend Col, exuding hostility, sifting through YouTube, manufacturing vast quantities of bile, bleaching his robes and scuffing his sandals. You can't expect him to be the slave of his own threads as well.

no CJ.. not deserted.. just hard working on some designs.. 'focused' you might say...

Back to Business!

Sofisu makes a good point....

The point is that people who profess Christianity have an obligation to love ALL... not hate.

BUT.. many will miss the important aspect of this mentioned by Philo..

YES..Jesus was a friend of tax collextors and sinners..but look at how they reacted to him.. they repented!

Zacchaeus "Lord.. anyone I have defrauded I restore 4 fold" ..he was a tax collector.

Woman caught in adultery "Go..and sin no more"

Sorry..the meek and mild Jesus who just 'winks' at all sin and doesn't really care about it is a figment of the imagination of sinners, certainly not the Jesus of the new Testament.

Now..down to tin tacs.

THE POINT.. for Pericles benefit is that this is just another example of the ongoing vilification of Christians by the left/gay lobby in an attempt at 'revenge' for perceived historical marginalization

The distance between todays 'but the law is against them (the gays)' and tomorrows "Exemptions to the Equal opportunity act are under review" and the next days "Hate laws" such as ATTEMPTED to criminalize and incarcerate Pastor Ake Green.... is not as much as many people think.

MORE POINTS.

If the story had said "Christian Brethren refused admission to a gay support group because of the practice being utterly condemned in the Bible" I would not have argued.

TAX EXEMPT status. They are a non profit group so there is no tax on 'camp income' but the Camps employees PAY TAX they are not exempt. Fees are as far as I know..so if Tax was added.. then all of us who wished to use it such as Rotary or Lions etc.. would be all paying more. If you want to pay more tax for your school child to go on a camp there ..hey don't wait just work it out and send it to the goverment.