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The Forum > General Discussion > When Discrimination laws....discriminate.

When Discrimination laws....discriminate.

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Good on you Robert... Mostly... I can always rely on your to have at least a modicom of reasonableness :) UN-like certain other individals who are so bigoted they want to slur Christians at ANY cost..and will sacrifice common sense.. reasonableness and balanced understanding on the alter of "I wanna prove you wrong no matter what".

Hence the virtual ignoring of the discrimination gays wish to apply to their own establishments and the focus on the 'Tax Benefits' of religious organizations.

The shallowness and amoral nature of such posts is clearly demonstrated in one simple fact.. Believers are not SHAREHOLDERS and there is no DIVIDEND from any of the so called 'profit' from these so called 'commercial' operations.

It also ignores (in the case of CYC camp.. that the only benefit is to the community (within the scope of acceptable users..which does not presumably include homosexual or Islamic or.. I'd hazard a guess to Hindu groups where the PURPOSE of the use is to promote the faith or morality concerned.

We can remain neutral on secular groups but it does get a bit icky when we try to tie this down to a comprehensive list of 'ok' and 'not ok' and then define in detail the reasons. It could be argued that even secular groups should not be welcome because they promote evolution? I think no matter which way they cut such cakes there will always be a basis for finding 'hyprocrisy' in it.
You now know why a 'Christian Camp' ministry/operation is probably the LAST place you would find me:)

Is it not equally 'anti God' to promote 'evolution/unbelief' as it is 'Homosexuality'? I spose we see it like this "Unbelief" is something God addresses in the gospel.. but 'specific sin badged organizations' are a disciplinary matter... gets awful messy to my mind
Posted by Polycarp, Saturday, 13 September 2008 9:25:24 AM
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You can always rely on some OLO regulars to take your breath away with blatant hypocrisy.

<<... to have at least a modicom of reasonableness :) UN-like certain other individals who are so bigoted they want to slur Christians at ANY cost..and will sacrifice common sense.. reasonableness and balanced understanding on the alter of "I wanna prove you wrong no matter what".>>

Substitute 'Muslims' for 'Christians' in the above BABBLE and there are no prizes for guessing the ubiquitous writer.

The amazing thing is he seems to have not one jot of an appreciation of his HYPOCRISY. Was he born that way or have the BRETHREN brainwashed him in his dotage?
Posted by Spikey, Saturday, 13 September 2008 12:39:38 PM
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What's a modicom? Is it something like an intercom
Posted by chainsmoker, Saturday, 13 September 2008 1:14:58 PM
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I'm finally beginning to realize
that clearly God has done a
wonderful job as far as most of
the posters on this Forum are concerned.

Ok, Polycarp is still a work in progress,
but at least he now walks around on two
legs like people and he has stopped the
grunting.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 13 September 2008 3:53:03 PM
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Polycarp,
I’m not out to slur Christians just for being Christians, otherwise I’d be after Foxy et al as well.
I’ve no need to slur tolerant Christians who live and let live.

I’d disagree with intolerant atheists, too.
It’s hard to understand why people are intolerant of another’s sexuality- what does it matter to THEM whether someone else has a same-sex or opposite-sex partner?
About you article,
Because of other people’s intolerance, homosexuals desire a safe place where they can show physical attraction to the same sex, since the average public pubs don’t provide a non-threatening environment for them.

Heterosexuals don’t feel threatened by others in pubs where they are free to meet with the opposite sex, dance closely and kiss in public, but homosexuals ARE feeling threatened.
Heterosexuals can be verbally abusive or violent when homosexuals behaving freely, especially if a homosexual mistakes a heterosexual for a homosexual and expresses attraction towards him.
I know a homosexual who went out to a pub in pink trousers to meet friends and got bashed so severely that he needed emergency surgery, ending up with a steel plate in his skull.

Pubs don’t get the tax benefits that religion institutions get, and as Fractelle said, “why should non-believers be made to pay for the churches of believers”. Christians don’t have to dig out taxes for gay bars, but you expect homosexuals to pay taxes for Christian facilities while they are banned from using them.

Continued.
Posted by Celivia, Saturday, 13 September 2008 4:20:00 PM
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RObert,
I think that needs to be interpreted in context.
Until the day that homosexual people can feel as safe as heterosexual people in their community or wherever they go out, it’s ok for them to want to be just amongst themselves, it’s ok for them to have a place where they can freely express their sexuality without feeling threatened. All they want to do is the same things as heterosexuals do, except with the same sex. Dance, hug, kiss in public, hold hands, etc.

There are women-only gyms where women are able to exercise without being self-conscious, or having to cope with perving men or with men who make sexual comments.

Re races, we have racial discrimination laws in Australia. All races in Australia have equal rights by law. We have anti-racial vilification laws.
But we don’t have anti-homosexual vilification laws.
Homosexuals do not have equal rights in Australia; no matter what their race is, if they're homosexual they can be vilified.
We simply have homophobic laws.
Posted by Celivia, Saturday, 13 September 2008 4:22:11 PM
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