Runner,

Like you, I also take offence to some of the comments made about Jesus on this forum. Unfortunately the people who says these things are provoked to do so by much of the Homophobic comments that come from Christians.

Spot on, CJ, Fractelle and Pericles, it’s the homophobes that are being mocked because they’re just so mockable!
IMO, speculating about Jesus’ sexuality is as much vilification as it is to speculate about his hair colour.
Only in the twisted, devious minds of homophobes could that be seen as religious vilification.

CJ ”… is it because Porky knows more about what usually happens at the "adventure resort" than the rest of us do?”
Excellent question, and hilarious, too. One person’s adventure can be another person’s trauma.

Is Polycarp going to stop loving Jesus if it turns out that he was gay?

Polycarp,
How many posts have you written about Islam and Mohammed that could be regarded as religious vilification by Muslims?

Christians like Foxy and Steel Mann stop me from totally disrespecting the religious. They think that the happiness and lives of people are more important than a few lines of text in the Bible.

You, Polycarp, ignore some bits from the Bible too, you are just cherry picking the parts that you agree with. That’s why I asked why you don’t advocate the killing of disobedient kids or the beating of employees by their employers.

Do Christians like Polycarp, Runner, Philo, Gibo (was he banned or something?) represent Christianity in a way that Jesus would approve of?

WWJD?
If Jesus had managed that Brethren camp, do you really believe that he would have denied access to homosexual groups or couples?

Polycarp and Runner,
I’m curious to find out whether you’d refuse an organ donated by a homosexual if that organ would be the only chance you had to save your life?

Jesus was a thoroughly decent bloke by all accounts. Generous, kind, gentle, thoughtful, sympathetic, fair and plenty of other positive descriptive terms. These are the characteristics I admire in him, and supposedly the ones we're supposed to use as guidance in our own lives. None of them have anything to do with his sexuality.

The suggestion that he may have been gay is beside the point for people who are more interested in his character than what he did with his boy bits. For all we know, Love your fellow man was meant to be taken literally. If not, it's a pretty reasonable way to think about other people of all kinds.

If Jesus was gay it's only ever going to bother those who discriminate on the basis of something that's really none of their business.

CJ - David Malouf, yeah, I can imagine that. I doubt the idea would appeal to him, but then Jesus reportedly wasn't too happy about it either.

Celivia you ask?

'I’m curious to find out whether you’d refuse an organ donated by a homosexual if that organ would be the only chance you had to save your life?'

More to the point Celivia if I was to be a organ donor I would have no problem donating to a person caught in the sin of homosexuality. It seems to me that most of the hate in these posts come from those who are pro the promotion of the homosexual lifestyle. Despite your insinuations I hold no hate in my heart for those practicing homosexuality. I am able to separate the person from the immorality as I do with fornicators or adulterers etc

I don't personally know if I would accept an organ donation from anyone however unless faced with the situation I could not give a definite answer.

Well said, chainsmoker.

Thanks for your honest answer to one of my questions, runner.
I could continue to question your answer more but I think I'll let you off the hook for now.
What is your answer, Polycarp?

Now, another question I had is, do you think that Jesus would have refused accommodation at his camp to a gay support group?

And a last question remaining unanswered is, why do you cherry pick the bits from the bible that condemn homosexuality but not other bits such as beating servants and killing children?

“…the hate in these posts come from those who are pro the promotion of the homosexual lifestyle.”
Hate is not the same as disagreement. I just strongly disagree with the fundies especially when they try to control or interfere with the lives and freedoms of others, such in this case, homosexuals. There is no acceptable reason why homosexual people should not have the same rights as any other person, including marriage.

What you fail to understand is that defending the homosexual lifestyle is not the same as promoting it, it is about promoting the acceptance of it.
A certain percentage of the population –of any species- and in any culture is homosexual.
Accept it and live and let live. The sexuality of other people is none of your business.

Homosexuality will not cease to exist when a group of fundies vilify homosexuality or try to control their life styles.

Beautifully put, Celivia.

>>What you fail to understand is that defending the homosexual lifestyle is not the same as promoting it, it is about promoting the acceptance of it.<<

This is also the case with the mozzie-bashers.

The evangelist Christians on this forum seem to believe that my defending the right of someone to a peaceful existence as a Muslim, free of the persistent battering from Christian fundamentalists and fearmongers, is the same as sharing their beliefs.

Not sharing someone else's totally legal and harmless life choices is one thing. Actively discriminating against them is, however, offensive.

Which of course leads to the obvious question: does the camp allow Muslim groups to book there?

If so, how is this defensible in comparison to their attitude towards gays?

If not, how is it defensible at all?