G'day all...

I wouldn't have a clue as to whether Enoch POWELL was a racist or not. However, as I stated in the other thread where POWELL'S veracity or otherwise was discussed (at length). He was pretty spot-on with his predictions apropos attempting to integrate and assimilate the many races and cultures in a small, crowded country like England.

When I was in the coppers I saw an abundance of evidence reflecting a similar situation emerging here in OZ.

I dunno, I really have grave disquiet as to the direction we as a nation are heading. I'm nearly at the end of my life, but I really worry as to what sort of world my grandchildren are facing. With so much uncertainty confronting us all.

The absence of quality leadership, coupled with the loss of basic values and a society with little or no probity or rectitude. This is the type of community in which we seek to try and raise our children and grandchildren.

A world where, should we dare have the audacity to even murmur a quiet dissent or ever so slightly demur at the propositition of unchecked immigration...we're branded a racist ! It beats me ?

Do some people have personality patterns that
make them more prone to prejudice than others?
A classic study by Theodore Adorno and his
associates (1950) tried to answer this question.

Adorno concluded that some people have a
distinctive set of traits, including -
conformity, intolerance, and insecurity.

Those who have this personality pattern,
he found, are submissive to superiors
and bullying to inferiors. They tend to have
anti-intellectual and anti-scientific
attitudes; they are disturbed by any
ambiguity in sexual or religious
matters' and they see the world in very rigid
and stereotyped terms.

Adorno claimed this type of personality
was a product of a family environment in
which the parents were cold, aloof,
disciplinarian, and themselves bigoted.

Another factor that can contribute to
prejudice is scapegoating. Placing
the blame for one's troubles on some
relatively powerless individual or group.

We've got examples of the Jews in Nazi
Germany who were conveniently blamed for
the country's economic troubles. Then
in Great Britain, where chronic unemployment
among working-class white youths caused them
to attack Pakistani immigrants, whom they
believed to be competing for the few
available jobs. Unable to strike at the real
source of their problem "the system," they
struck out at the Pakistanis instead.

The irrationality of prejudice is that it
shows people hostile towards groups they
may never have met or even heard of.

It's the fear of the "unknown." And it is often
simply a matter of conformity to the norms of
one's own group.

What an incredibly pompous rant (or five) from Boazycrap. Of course Enoch Powell was racist, just like Boazy is - and he lied and obfuscated about it in just the same ways that Boazy does. Correction: Enoch Powell didn't hide his odious ideas behind various pseudonyms.

I first became aware of Enoch Powell as a kid, when he was regularly the butt of TV comedy shows like 'Monty Python's Flying Circus' and 'Til Death Us Do Part'. My parents used to laugh at him in much the same way that we used to laugh at Pauline Hanson's media antics (mind you, Powell had a brain and could speak well in public, unlike Pauline). After he was deservedly dumped by his party following the 'Rivers of Blood' fiasco, he managed to suck off the public teat as a benchwarming MP for another couple of decades.

While it's hardly surprising that Boazy is a big fan of the late and unlamented Powell, I agree with TRTL that it's stretching it a bit to start a new thread about him just because nobody much was interested in the first one. Boazy seems to have shifted focus from preaching the gospel to the more primordial messages with which we're all too familiar.

Mind you, one wonders why he persists in his pretence about his identity, given that absolutely everybody has outed him. Weird.

The worst thing is that I now have an unfortunate mental image of Boazycrap as a kind of religious Alf Garnett type... not pretty :0

Well put Foxy there has been several other research papers that modify the basic 1950 conclusions but only peripherally. The one addition significant amplification of this is the comparative psychology of violent gangs in New York, LA and in the Caribbean. It was noted that the more insecure (powerless) the individual is the more extreme (violent) the group they identified with. The paper went on to also note the more authoritarian lacking in personal power the group more comfortable the individual became and the less lightly they were to relinquish their quasi religious comfort zone. The implications are both fascinating and depressing.

CJ Morgan I agree with you Powell’s views were that of a rationalized bigot an agent provocteur apealing to the uneducated and simplistic disalusioned of the time. His apeal was simply for the reasons as mentioned by Foxy and I. He was a product of his times. To day his views are out dated and as asinine as they are contemptable. Best remembered as a warning from the bad old days and a subject of ridicule.

To resurrect Powell’s philosophies is supiciously Skin Head in tone as they generally revere him. The equivelent to the kiss of death
to any protentions of intellectual or moral value.

BTW The Peter Sellers union character in the movie “I'm alright Jack” was supposedly inspired by Powell.

I think that all Polycarp was trying to do, (regardless of how many posts or threads he has used to achieve this), was to make the salient point that Enoch Powell was right in what he was saying with regards to projected racial integration in Britain at that particular time in history!

It may be classed as "racist" by some "who cannot see the wood for the trees!"....however it was a fact of life and proved to be relatively true in historical outcome! Thus I think that Polycarp was trying to point out to everyone that the self-same situation is occurring today here in Australia and we should therefor heed the warnings by reducing immigration and encouraging those already here, alienated by race and/or culture to accept and endeavour to integrate successfully into our society,....failure of which will inevitably lead to racial strife in the long term!

We should all take a good look around us and see what is going on, and see what a lot of us do NOT want to see!....."The Emperor wears NO clothes!"

There are THOSE above who have a vested interest in fostering unrest and instability to enable the implementation of stricter and more intrusive laws and regulation upon an a gullible community!

In this current climate of diminishing resources, world overpopulation and increasing racial tension and vilification, ....we should be encouraging EVERYONE to stay in his or her own country and simply "make the best of it!"

Cuphandle,
Polycarp's intentions are clear to me. I just don't accept his premise that things are any worse that at any other time. Basic humanity is the same what has changed (hopefully) is our collective wisdom in relation to dealing with these issues independent of sensationalised hysterics.

Polycarp has the right to express his views providing they don’t wander into pure racial vilification, personal insult as his previous incarnation had a tendency to do. He has the right to live in what ever paranoid delusion of his own making he desires.

Likewise I have the right to pour the cold water of rationality on such odious VIEWS. I simply deny has the right to adversely impact others.

It is unlikely that he will experience a burning bush epiphany of humanism therefore HE isn’t the issue the VIEWS are. My intention is to point out to OTHERS the contextual, logical and moral deficits in such views regardless of the identity of their author.