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Was Israel a mistake?

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ASymeonakis “The USA are in decline and they have to solve many basic internal problems, 49% of taxpayers money go to wars or former wars.”

I am not sure what tea leaves you are reading but I think you will find the good ole USA has some bite in it still.

As to “49% taxpayers money go to wars or former wars”

I went to wikipedia, for a quick response and found

“The United States spends 3.7% of its GDP on its military,”

Somehow I figure US government taxes and spends is more than 7.4% of GDP (=3.7% divided by your 49% )

Likewise

“the US outlays for defense as a percentage of federal discretionary spending, has from Fiscal Year 2003 consumed more than half (50.5%) of all such funding and has risen steadily. Discretionary spending accounts for approximately 1/3 of all federal outlays”

If defense = half of discretionary federal spending and discretionary spending equals 1/3 of all government spending, it would be reasonable to assume defense consumed 1/6 (17%) of all government spending.

Now wiki might not be the best source and I could go look some more but it certainly sounds truer than your claim.

Focus on Europe. “The region is passing to European Union”

Hardly. The EU has enough problems, they like to play statesmanship but at the end of the day Fortress Europe is in a hell of a mess after decades of stupid EU economics. They are in no position to lead the world anywhere

“I believe the there hardline islamists will replace them”
then you better pray USA remains the strongest power, Europe does not have the will to fight, the old Eastern Block is a rust bucket and China has more problems than it knows what to do with.
Apart from those four, there is no one else.

“The world want a solution to the conflict and Israel's behave to Palestinians,”

Actually the Palestinians have messed that up, the world does not give a rats anymore for Palestinians, they are a failed state, a bunch of terrorists, an international pariah
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 7 August 2008 8:10:17 PM
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“I believe the there hardline islamists will replace them”
then you better pray USA remains the strongest power

Absolutely well said. Europe has not done well by the Arab muslim block, even as it supports them to the hilt no matter what the issue. The result is the fostering of un-democratic regimes - which has caused the Arab peoples great losses and stymied their progress.

Europe should have been in the forefront of promoting equality, democrasy and reciprocity from Arabian states; Europe also has an onus to correct historical falsehoods fed the Arab peoples, by Regime appointed clerics and media; Europe has prime responsibility to cleanse its historical mildew parading the Arab world, such as blood libels, The Protocols, etc - these are European falsehoods which have already costed 100s of 1000s of lives.

Today, Europe has more mosques than churches emerging - this is fine, but why not promote equal attitudes so churches would be allowed in Arab states - or cease the mosques in Europe? America, while also interacting with the Middle-east, does voice her disatisfaction of certain negative paradigms in Arabia - while Europe is either silent or in active promotion of it. This is hardly good for the peoples of the Regime states established by Briton.

The world should be thankful for and to America. There's no one else out there worthy. America is a microcosm of all peoples, and her Constitution is a majestic treatise.
Posted by IamJoseph, Thursday, 7 August 2008 10:19:52 PM
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Col Rouge
The U.S. Government says that military spending amounts to 20% of the budget,
The Center for Defense Information (CDI) reports 51%,
the Friends Committee on National Legislation (FCNL) reports 43%, and
The War Resisters League claims 54%.
You can visit the web sites of the CDI, FCNL or The War Resisters League for more details.
"then you better pray USA remains the strongest power:
NO USA CREATES MORE PROBLEMS THAN SOLVE!
I agree with you about China and Eastern block BUT I DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE EUROPEAN UNION.
Do not underestimate EU, it is our only hope! I would like to see Australia as full member from the EU if we want to avoid the huge risks from China.
Do not worry, EU PROMOTE ITS INTERESTS WITH THE SMART WAY!
MAY BE YOU THINK THEY ARE WEAK, IN REALLY THEY ARE VERY EXPERIENCE AND KNOWS HOW TO MAXIMIZE THE BENEFITS WITH THE MINIMUM POSIBLE COST.
IamJoseph
"Europe has not done well ...The result is the fostering of un-democratic regimes",
Are you joking? USA is fostering non democratic regimes, not European Union. EU is top on human rights, environment protection, democracy, support to poor countries, respect to international criminal court, full cooperation with Amnesty international etc.
WHEN YOU SPEAK FOR FOR EU WE MUST BE MORE CAREFULL BECAUSE REALLY EU IS OUR ONLY HOPE!
ISRAELIS MUST UNDERSTAND THAT ONLY EU CAN BRING PEACE AND PROSPERITY IN THEIR REGION.

Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Friday, 8 August 2008 12:46:25 AM
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