Pelican, interesting thread.

Both feminine and feminism cover very wide ranges. The extremes of both don't go together but there is plenty of happy space in the middle.

I suspect that my idea of feminine will be quite different to that of some others (Fractille already had impressed on that count on a post about doing repairs around her property in a different thread). Others might find that same resourcefulness unappealing. Don't panic Fractille, my attentions are very contentedly elsewhere. Just take it as a compliment.

One of the joys of this space is that we get to know people first by their words rather than appearances. I'll just have to pretend that I don't know that Vanilla has let herself go ;)

I can also be glad that what constitutes masculinity is not the same for all women. That at least one distinctly independant, feminine and beautiful woman appears to find the mix of characteristics which goes to making up me appealing.

R0bert

*WRONG Yabby, everyone knows that the perfect woman can't think and loves housework.*

Actually not so Fractelle. Perhaps that was the old definition
of "wife", which was about washing, ironing, f.... ing etc.

Its a different story with "partner", IMHO anyhow. If you
are both tuned to different mental frequencies, its fairly
bloody hopeless. If you are on the same wavelength, it all
becomes so much easier and more meaningfull. The best relationships
that I have had, have been with really intelligent women.

However their career paths usually take them to totally different
places then where I live, which is in the sticks.

(Fractelles bloke speaking)..

"Honey.. about the garden... I'm thinking we will pick the plants and put them in this weekend..how about it?"

[Fractelle] "Sure mate..sounds good.. we'll put the Azalias at the front, and some conifers at the back"

[Fractelles bloke] "WHAT? err.. umm.. Conifers? did you say CONIFERS? oooh..honey.. I reallllly don't like Conifers..... don't know about that"(thinks to himself.."good GRIEF.. I had a bad conifer experience as a kid..traumatized me.. and now 'she' wants to surround me with them?..argh")

[Fractelle replies].. "But HONEY.. I absolutely LURRRRV conifers..they remind me of my childhood at Grannies.. we simply MUST have them!"

Soon the neigbours call 000 and emphasize the need for an ambulance.

*grin*

Humour
Integrity
Honesty
Intelligence
Self respect
Competence

yeah yeah :)

Wasn't going to put in my two cents worth because, between them, Fractelle and Vanilla voiced my own opinions. But I just had to come in now to ask:-

BD -

What the HELL was that all about?

Hi dear Romany

well..it was about having a slight dig at Fractelles 'paradise' like account of male female relationships.

When I read her post I thought "Good golly.. I've arrived at the garden of Eden" (prior to the fall) :)

She mentions some pretty idealistic values, but knowing human nature, and how WE (all) disagree here.. something as simple as 'which type of plant' ..or.. it might be 'which color for the feature wall' or 'That' painting... tends to bring out the 'challenging' side in all of us..

Most people who express idealistic views about relationships realllly mean 'as long as it goes my way, all that is true' :)

Don't make too much of it.. I'm being a stirrer this time.

Boaz_David....What was that about the front gates of Eden...?

Ah...there's Adam, just finished his Senior First Aiders course...pressure bandages in mitts... all at the ready in case the lovely young Eve is bitten by the nasty serpent. But no... a quick nibble of the pippin and we are forever cast into doubt not knowing where we should tread in sight of our true loves eyes. Or was it the other way around?

Does this all mean that woman is from Earth and man is from Earth also, not the perception of Mars and Venus as was thought?

The mystery and challenge of it all!

Best wishes to all.