I haven't had a chance to read what everybody has said but I have been trying to tell people for years that the problem with the system is that there is no effective or fair process of complaint handling so problems never get fixed up, they just kept problems hidden away. By the time the issue explodes the matter is so big that everybody throws up their hands.

The complaint administrative process is set up to deal with the person who complains and not the complaint. We need a royal commission into Complaint Handling as the process is used to ignore, cover up and deny. This process works to discredit those who complain and therefore nothing in the system changes.

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CJ Morgan, it's obvious that if christains are being persecuted that there has been a massive cover up. Why are our major news media not covering the horror of those witches and warlocks burning christains at the stake for their beliefs, the evil of the torture being inflicted on them in attempts to get them to recant their beliefs.

Hang it's the other mob that do that stuff isn't it. At a guess the persecution is simply that they exist and maybe that they have taken advantage of the changed climate that allows them to express their faith without direct and severe consequences as a result.

Who persecutes who? A brief think about history should answer that one.

R0bert

What we have here Gibo is a pack of party iets who only believe what they are told and cannot think forthemselves.

They know there is corruption and we live in a political dictatorship but as long as their party wins they dont care.

We have peodophiles within parties, corruption the heiner affair and i am still waiting for a reply from rudd, but i doubt that he will take me to court for defamation as he knows it will take the labor and the unions down.

But will have to wait and see.

Those who dont stand and fight get things like labor selling of public assets and removing jobs.
Incompetence with schools, so many teachers going on strike for better wages from the incompetent state government.

maybe we should charge the states or unions for childcare.

Incompetence with housing, instead of building more they sell it from under those who need it most.

Thinking of themselves and the party instead of working for the people.

We should take our representatives to court for fraud.
So the blinkers are on those who dont have what it takes to make a stand due to not being wanted to be expelled from their dictatorship.

Stuart Ulrich
Independent

Gibo, I'm a little confused here -

Not long ago, you began a thread entitled "I really loved John Howard."

Rudd has not been in power long enough to really change the government from the inside out, and you've given no examples as to what it really is that you object to from this administration, as opposed to Howard's regime.

So... if you think we have inept government, why were you so enamoured with the previous leader?

More importantly, how can you now judge we have an inept government, when you previously liked the leader?

What exactly is it that is so inept about our government, when you consider it in the context of other governments throughout the world? You speak of some alleged Chinese military threat, but would you really prefer such a model of government?

You object to liberal ideals and think 'pornography' is a scourge that is some kind of genuine threat, and yet, I take it you don't want some kind of fascist ultra-conservative government such as is the model of Saudi Arabia? Unless you're just out for some Christian equivalent...

You'll forgive me if your positions seem a little inconsistent, but if your only way to quantify this is to resort to some diatribe about prophecies or 'The Word' then I'll pass on hearing another bizarre tangent.

ok I am laughing! but concerned too Gibo has a fan club, every idea has worth we are told.
But how truly do we handle this?
I know glen I often pass it and it is a great Scottish built town, can we ask those who jumped into agree with Gibo to consider this thread?
And if it is true , the claims they made not Gibos that we are so badly governed tell us of the last government that was ok
It shouts at me that a thread like this is the best place some can find to seek support?

I agree with you Jolanda.
I think things have gotten far too complex for governments to function fully.
A process starts, but doesnt always get completed. I havent got answers to the problem.
I hear NSW is broke... having spent too much. Labor.
Maybe theres also too much paper work in government.
It killed the NSW Police Force for years and thwarted function.
I hate to see jobs go because at the other end of the spectrum it creates vast social problems (sacked people hit drugs and booze and this wrecks relationships. The great and mighty corporations ought to remember this when they sack faithful employees to save a buck) but the paper work could get a major trim.
But who's to do it?
Labor just doesnt manage. Appears to spend its time with dreams, maybe of a great global New Age communism...a second try at the old Red thing...polished up, with new chrome, but the same thing.
They have camourflage around everything, so we dont get a clear picture of their plans.
Im sorry the thread degenerated to a bit of a brawl but some of the younger boys dont like me speaking against Labor, connecting the old communism to it and to the unions (communism in Australia isnt dead just altered by the fallen spirit world to suit another plan...i.e. get us involved more and more with an evil Chinese government).
What you say Tapp is also true. The Labor chaps love their small dictators but forget how far the States have backslidden under that party. I watched it and saw it happen. In four years the cupboard will be bare again and we will further be caught in the grips of Red China.