Back on course boys...

The thing is Gibo that you don't get to decide just how and what everybody else will think and say dispite your fondest wishes.

The issue of being on topic has some relevance but given that you introduced a variety of themes in your posts that is really a judgement call as to their relevance. Just because you want certain assumptions to remain unchallenged does not mean that they remain unchallenged.

If you want the topic to be based on your own experiences and evaluation of those experiences then you can expect to have your judgement challenged. I don't feel compelled to dance to the tune and timing which you call but do consider it important to ensure that you numerous attacks on things outside the church are challenged.

If you actually want to have a discussion about inept government prove that they are genuinely inept. Prove that the issues you raise are real and not just manifestations of your own strange beliefs. Back it up with evidence.

If I started a thread expressing my views about the charismatic church and the level of hypocracy and ethical/financial and sexual immorality amongst pastors and adherants but failed to provide any independant evidence which supported my views would you feel compelled to accept my assumptions and have the discussion on my terms?

R0bert

PS: Belly. If you can talk about the glories of Labor and the unions surely under "free speech" I can talk about their evils, as I perceive them, as a christian with knowledge of the spirit world. That town youre talking about was Glen Innes, NSW and it is known far and wide amongst the committed christians that there has for decades been a strong witchcraft group there in charge of setting up the occult Celtic Festival, even one ex-mayor was involved in the occult.
That little town is a centre for dark powers and every year they turn up to the Celtic Festival in the form of clairvoyants, card readers and other dark persons doing witchcraft things... and oppress the local christians with their occult, gay abandon. The christians of that one small town have long been persecuted by the warlocks and the witches...and they feel that persecution from the dark side of the spirit world.
If we honour free speech I can say (mostly) what I want connecting it to other threads and correcting you young boys about spirit things as I go. Stiff upper lip young chap.

Gibo “Celtic Festival in the form of clairvoyants, card readers and other dark persons doing witchcraft things”

I do not support of believe in clairvoyants or witches. My reason is simple, they exploit the fearful and gullible for their own personal profit, an action which my personal standards finds unacceptable. Unlike the Church of Rome who sees them as a competition to the papal right to exploit the fearful and gullible for their own profit.

If you believe in demonic possession, the occult and necromancy then all I can assume is you count among the fearful and gullible and, maybe not so strangely, your posts tend to confirm that.

Gibo my true honest concern for your wellbeing are extended.
If you look past your biases you will see while I am committed to both legs of my movement I often find fault there.
Now and again from within my movement a voice will come that I think is wrong, always I make it clear that voice does not speak for me.
Find me a thread not about politics or unions that saw me introduce one or the other to.
Find any thread you took part in that does not see you introduce religion.
Your trying to put this thread back on track shows you understand you can not control others thoughts.
Young fellows? not me mate but age, any age young or old is no proof of understanding or the worth of thoughts and ideas.
You are judged by your printed words not your own views of your self
Gibo.

"On track" indeed.

Gibo: << That little town is a centre for dark powers and every year they turn up to the Celtic Festival in the form of clairvoyants, card readers and other dark persons doing witchcraft things... and oppress the local christians with their occult, gay abandon. The christians of that one small town have long been persecuted by the warlocks and the witches...and they feel that persecution from the dark side of the spirit world. >>

I live an hour or so's drive from Glen Innes, which is a truly delightful town in the New England Tablelands. The Celtic Festival celebrates the area's cultural links via the predominantly Scottish ancestry of its first European settlers, and is a successful tourism intitative for the town.

Strangely, I've never heard anybody from Glen complaining of "persecution from the dark side of the spirit world". In fact, the only times I ever encounter such deranged twaddle are in this forum.

If it wasn't generally so amusing, it'd be quite sad really. And Gibo, some of us here really aren't all that young.