Gibo another false accusation on your part "Youre with Belly and Robert. Laying traps for me all over the place."

I don't think any of us are laying traps for you, rather trying to hold you accountable for the numerous false or unsubstantiated claims you make.

Your blog was interesting in that it demonstrated clearly how you always see your failings as someone elses fault. It was the culture and or the older policemans fault that you did not uphold your sworn duties, it was their fault that you choose to drink to excess.

It's someone elses fault around here when you make a false accusation and then are challenged about it. Never your fault for making the false claim in the first place or presenting it as fact rather than opinion.

You suggested elsewhere that you might need more healing, perhaps you could start by taking responsibility for your own choices through life. Sometimes the options are not easy (the situation you faced in the police) but we almost always have a choice.

In this case if you don't want to be challenged about your claims don't post them in a public forum. Better still be prepared to back your claims with evidence, take up the challenge when other present evidence. You have not responded to the material I posted about the children overboard incident or the bible verses I provided on the womens clothing thread which you started - both on topic and from public sources.

You and only you are acountable for your lifes choices, not the police heirarchy, not the beer makers, not the porn makers and not other posters on OLO.

Accept that and you might be on your way to healing.

R0bert

Pretty well said, R0bert.

Gibo - the matter is quite simple. At the end of the day, you come here and make all kinds of wild statements.

What's more, you make these wild statements, and expect that others should believe them, when you give them no reason to, except your own 'life experience' which we're supposed to take as gospel.

I don't think anybody else here believes in corporeal demons. Maybe some of the more fringe Christians might believe in demonic possession, I dunno. When you're talking subjects like that, it's all varying degrees of nuttery to me.

Even that I could go along with, and I wouldn't object to someone who believes those things. You however, have zero respect for other views, so I've responded in kind.

People disagree about many things in life, Gibo. If you expect to persuade people, you should talk to them.

You however, talk at people. Not to them.
You simply don't listen to others. When they present you with information that doesn't suit you, you either just plain ignore it, or dismiss it as part of some evil conspiracy.

You think you're above justification, or giving reasons. Maybe you think with your god on your side, you don't need to use reason or logic.

When challenged, you change topic or preach at people. When others don't stick to the topic, you chastise them, without even once considering your own hypocrisy.

Trap indeed.

Fact is, you tell others to stay on topic, while jumping all over the place.

I make the comments about Howard and so forth, because you're blind to your hypocrisy. Be it Labor or liberal, they're all just people who make mistakes.

There aren't 'absolute' rules you can apply. The world is not black and white. Labor isn't evil, nor was Howard, regardless of how objectionable I found him. The world isn't some grand clash between the forces of light and dark, no matter how much you may crave such simplicity.

Most people have the courage to face the complex nature of a world of grey. You don't.

To get back to the topic - most of the inept government we've seen in recent decades will of course be a result of the Howard government, them having been in power so long (this is why I find your simultaneous Howard worship and contempt for our government so stupid).
I'd say that the biggest improvements we could make would be a genuinely independent public service. I'm skeptical this will happen, even though Rudd does seem to be making some overtures in that direction.

What's interesting, is he's also saying that top civil servants may face replacement from the private sector - which, actually conflicts with the idea of an independent public service, unless of course Rudd's actually putting forward a decent 'arm's length' model.

Though at least, moves are being made to restore some accountability there, even if they don't eventuate. More than I can say for Howard...

Now, Gibo - is that something you can actually consider, or would you rather just point out how evil Labor is and maybe foretell a prophecy of doom at the hands of some evil lefty?

Pull K. Rudds mask off and there maybe another being underneath.
A church going christian, committed to Jesus Christ, doesnt allow the gays further power. He resists anyway he can. The gays are not after rights... they are after power.

Gibo while the thread is about poor government it is your thread so it is also about fundamentalist Christianity.
Demonising my party the ALP and a list so very long of ideas that seem to say some humans are evil or followers of evil.
It is of no worth to remind you of John Howard's acts, children over board or exporting our citizens.
This weekend I sit among my party, some will be late on Sunday church comes first but you condemn them too.
Any brief look at the birth of your God finds another God under neath a host of former Gods even Christmas day is a steal.
You wait for a day to come that will see you on you knees forever at the feet of your God while I fry in a non existent hell.
Wait as quick as you can mate it will be a long wait.
I will look every day at mans greatness life bad governments or good it is in our hands no one Else's.
I ask you again is your God prepared to kill every one who is not his follower?