Yabby said
*collected by federal government.*

Exactly Gertrude, ...
Pale replies
No No Yabby, I was refering to the $1.00 for $1.00 public purse funding to 'both'= MLA and =livecorpe each. Its 50 50 Government Industry.

Also the public funding which goes into enquiries= ALL of which recomdeded a immediate BAN. They are many other hidden public costs.

Yabby Said
Now for once in your life get off your little
butt and learn about what MLA actually do, where the money
comes from and where it is spent!

pale Comments
Umm, well now Yabbys thats a tall order. Mind You I have had some help as to leads for funding,
From: Michael Finucan
To: info@halakindmeats.com
Cc: Yvette Farrell

Dear Wendy,



Following our phone conversation and As I discussed with you on the phone you can review the funding ..
http://www.mla.com.au/TopicHierarchy/IndustryPrograms/default.htm.
Feel free to call me to discuss further....
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So there you go Yabbs -clear as mud- (Us usual)


Yabby
I am not the bible for plants and the meat industry. My resonsibilty is to find alternative methods. I have people that speak the laungage of the meat industry.

I post here to show people where to look and the only way to improve things for Animals.
Animal Lovers really need to comprimise and support people like ABA and other companies that at least want to slaughter here in Australia.


A few Animals saved from the live trade are better than none.

The only way to save them is to work with the industry.

Thats All I have to offer, 'sadly'.

Dear Yabby, can you tell us please what pieces of paper (in the form of real achievements - qualifications) which attest to your brilliance in economics, veterinary science, medicine, law and education? That would give us a clear idea of where your bizarre notions come from. It might also prove that a lack of education is often the reason why people resort to insults when backed into corners.

Cheers
Nicky
PS I DID like being called sweetheart though.

*what pieces of paper (in the form of real achievements - qualifications) *

First lesson in life kid, pieces of paper are not real achievements,
results in the real world are. Lang Hangcock did point out that
academics are for hire, a dime a dozen. So true.

Now if you used your bits of paper to achieve results in the real
world, then great. I remind you that Bill Gates was a high school
dropout however.

Now if we looked at results in the real world, I could start to
brag, but you might feel embarrassed.

Clearly you are trying to divert from the arguments here, so lets
just stick to the OLO method. Your ability to reason against mine.

Make your points, I will make mine, anyone who bothers to read these
posts can form their own opinions.

All very straightforward and simple sweetheart :)

Thanks, Yabby, But you make the age-old error of equating achievement with money, and that is not how ethical people measure their achievements - in fact quite the opposite.

Nite nite, sweetheart,

Nicky

There is a silent code of ethics in debating forums where, when one makes any claims, they are expected to substantiate them on request.

Claimants who are unable to do this, are viewed as shysters and cannot be trusted. The Mouth has constantly made the following claim:

"And I remind you Dickie, that I mentioned that I had the figures
from the annual report."

However, he refused to supply posters with the MLA's Annual Report, therefore I provided it for him. He chose to ignore it.

I will now provide that report again and I request the claimant to advise the title of the section heading and the title of the sub-section of the Annual Report which he claims contains the figures he brandished with gusto, concerning promotional expenditure on the live exports and red meat:

http://www.mla.com.au/HeaderAndFooter/AboutMLA/Corporate+documents/Annual+report.htm

"People with half a brain at least inform themselves
to know what they are arguing about."

Perhaps he will now share that information. Hey, that's some admission from the Mouth about his half a brain eh?

Nicky, you of course make the fatal flaw of thinking that money and ethics are
mutually exclusive, which is not the case. There is a huge difference between
money being a means to an end, or an end in itself.

Fact is that society views you quite differently to how you view yourself.
Fact is that your bits of paper, which you cherish, are only worth something
to you, if you want a job, to verify your claims.

Bill Gates, high school dropout, is now in the fortunate position where he
can ponder about life and what he cares about and write out a 1 billion $
cheque before breakfast to back his favourite ethical project. You will
post yet another post on OLO :) Big difference!

If Bill Gates flies into Sydney, I bet you that if he wants to have a chat
with Kevin, it will be arranged within hours. You will most likely
be fobbed off by the minders. That is the reality of this world, like
it or not.

Dickie, I don’t play by your rules on the internet. I never have and never
will.

Fact is that if you want to be a critic, at least be informed. The least you
could have done long ago, was to read the MLA annual report, so that
you know what they actually do and why. Informed criticism.

Yes I can easily tell you the exact page where my figures come from.
But first it might do you some good to inform yourself a little about
MLA and what they claim, so try and find the figures for yourself,
its not hard, just common sense. If you can’t find them, I’ll tell you.
Meantime even you should be able to guess that it has something
to do with marketing