Ladies and Er, Gentlemen:) Oh Thats right Yabbs, sorry I forgot:)

Regardless, I have to agree with Yabby about getting the job done.

Its the old farmers that most likely dont even read (half of them anyway) that will fix this problem- not the pen pushes.

You wont find any answers in MLA accounts .

Remember even if he wanted to Yabby couldnt stop live exports. He isnt reasonsible for this mess.

The National Party steered the Government and country into this.

Sure Yabbys a torment and loves beefing it up with the girls but thats about it.

At times hes been helpful.

If the 'mouth' as you call him Dickie 'didnt debate us' we would not have a track record on the net of =you girls 'out debating him' on the cruel live animal export trade:)

The fact is no money is worth treating animals like this so lets move on. ITS DARN RIGHT CRUEL! End of Story! For ANY Price!!

Yabby wouldnt know what MLA do with their money girls- that much I absolutly promise you.



Forget the figures leave that to ABA .

Forget everything you have learned through the animal welfare sites too.
Work at grass roots levels with the farmers and talk with overseas buyers direct,

DONT go through DPI Dont Go through ANY Government body.

Then your on the right track. Maybe start a ABA support group but dont mention aa or al or they will have pink pussy cats.

Its a start and you dont need degrees to do it.

That is IMOP the only thing that is going to make a difference.-

Get out into the 'real world' =where ploy`s and pen pushers are looked down on.= And rightfully so.
The laws of the bush is fair go mate- The farmers DID NOT create this cruelty. They are just dumped with the problems of a utterly morally bankrupt Government and system
You offer them the same price for a better outcome for their Animals and They will take it.
Simple

“Remember even if he wanted to Yabby couldnt stop live exports. He isnt reasonsible for this mess.” (Pale)

Pale

The Mouth is indeed “responsible for this mess” for he is a party to a consortium of humans who believe they have a divine right for dominion over other species by exporting live animals on death ships to the land of the barbarians.

Your vested interests, I believe, have clouded your good judgment of a man who is sufficiently deluded to force-feed posters here, lies so infantile, they would be rejected by a juvenile.

There is no record of the Mouth’s claims in the Annual Report.

I believe that your attempt at diplomacy may be at times prudent, however, you have reinforced my view that diplomacy has no friends, only interests.

Hubris and egophrenia are not worthy of diplomacy, therefore I shall not be as charitable as to afford the Mouth that courtesy since he has made clear that he delights in joyful cruelty and sadism.

It is the embodiment of arrogance for the Mouth to claim a higher knowledge and morality and at the same time inflict abuse and trauma on the defenceless. These are the humans who, operating under a mask of lucidity, are a danger to a society befitting the 21st century.

When you digest the diabolical propaganda put out by this industry one realizes that kindness to animals is not a consideration.

In the pursuit of unrestrained greed, this arrogant consortium is perversely dictating to a captive state government that they are above the laws set down by the legislated State Animal Welfare Act. This industry is an incubator of tyranny, perpetrated by a tyrannical and corrupt government and our Australian animals are the pawns.

Only yesterday German-based Hugo Boss, one of the world's largest fashion houses, has released a statement declaring it "dissociates itself from mulesing because it contravenes our corporate values".

International boycotts are now occurring on a regular basis. The world is watching Australia and its inhumane industries whose members, bewitched by power and avarice, will indeed be forced to learn the hard way.

Dickysaid

For he is a party to a consortium …

Pale replies

Umm, interesting comment. Ought to be discussed by lawyers and Church Leaders– when considering new Animal Welfare act- and= we ‘will’ have a new act.

Hopefully someone like Sir Paul May lend a hand = See RSPCA press conference on dominion over Animals and churches.

http://www.livexports.com/hughwirth.html

Don’t forget more and more however the Koran -so it’s very important we bring them into it now- taking over the meat trade.

. Kosher is a problem and we weren’t able get any animal welfare groups interested to join us together with meetings with head Muslims and leading Rabbi. However now RSPCA National have agreed.

One certainly does wonder about vetted interests and why your friends would refuse to do this for the animals...

Is it true what RSPCA leaders and others have said over the years- (That certain people refuse to work together because of egos and power strugglers)?

Why the hell all work together .Each can’t have something different to offer.

Dickiesaid

your vested interests, I believe, have clouded your good judgment.

Pale replies
Umm, no your emotion has clouded yours Dickey TBO. I understand because deep down I am the same. I believe if you had a project that would bring results you would be less frustrated.-

(The moral of the story is got get mad- get even)

It requires people with the determination to get results. Regardless if we have to lie with fleas or dogs (as they say) the purpose of all this is to make changes for the animals.

We can’t afford the luxury of self indulgence.

However let me disclose for the first time on OLO ‘my vested interests.’
To Be Contiuned=

Contiuned

However let me disclose for the first time on OLO ‘my vested interests.’

1. First to stop the ships and replace with =each plant having agreed to put in some form of improvement.

2. As technology become available= to update until each plant has gas to render Animals to sleep.

3 Dawn Low AA PACAT and each one of you girls- (and a few that don’t post here) to be funded to operate ongoing Animal Welfare work.

4To operation with Malaysia that I personally put on the table non animal tested (Halal) cosmetics and other products is a trillion dollar industry.

I believe that your attempt at diplomacy may be at times prudent; however, you have reinforced my view that diplomacy has no friends, only interests.

Pale replies
TBO I am not know for my diplomacy – However =your getting the hang of it :)

Dickysaid

Dictating to a captive state government

Pale replies

No Dickey- “fronting for’ the State Governments and Federal Governments

Dickysaid
MLA's Annual Report,
Pale
Leave that to ABA and others. = You girls deserve to have a program that will make a difference.
Please put your energy into challenging WA case. There are lawyers are waiting for assistance with this.


As for the people involved within the Industry its requires huge fundings to put them out of business.

These types of people can not be found in Australia.

However as Elders MLA AWB the Governments are well aware they are easily found overseas.

This is why FF MLA Austrade and All Government programes are designed to only promote the cruel live trade.
There is nO use going on at Government despite who is in power.

The system is too well entrenched and this is how they get into power. The vetted interests of the trucking companies and many others with ALP donations = of course that crosses over all political parties.


If you get the RIGHT overseas people involved in reopening Australian Abattoirs the Governmernt will jump.

Cheers and thanks for your brilliant efforts work along with Nicky.

Dickie dear, thanks for the many compliments and the melodrama.

Unfortunately none of it adds to any kind of rational debate, but
I do understand that you old ducks might have trouble keeping up,
as the mind is less clear. Fair enough, that's life.

The figures are on pages 16,18 and 21, so time to get your glasses
out and have another look.

I have given the Mouth every opportunity to redeem himself.

Yet the falsehoods and manipulations continue.

The Mouth is in need of a good carbolic scrub.

The marketing expenditure for Y/E 2007 was a record $88.2. million. Quite impressive for an industry which cries poor-mouth.

http://annualreport07.mla.com.au/five_years.php

“$57 million" plus “$600 thousand” does not add to $88.2 million.

Can one hold the international community responsible for placing this nation's eco-vandal cabals on its blacklist when we witness here,the less than ethical calibre of its representatives?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/04/16/2218618.htm