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Do you believe in God's existence?

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YES I do believe in God's existance His creation His love and His greatness. The thing that really blows me out is the ammount of people who continually blame GOD for everthing bad that happens in the world they dont realize that most of it was caused by "MAN's" hands.

1. Natural disasters - MAN has stuffed the enviroment and that is causing an inbalance and slow distruction of Gods beautiful creation. Love God means love his creation also. Sorry man hasnt!
2. Wars - religious fanatics fighting for their religion WRONG God says love thy neighbour NOT kill him.

That is my opinion and GOD says that I should not force anyone, just show them his great love.
If you read the bible you will see more clearly
Posted by Mega Bites, Monday, 3 March 2008 11:04:14 AM
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Yes I do. Why wouldn't you? I mean, even when we die, if Christians were wrong, at least we have had something good to keep us going for the whole of our lives. I mean, when I die, and IF I am wrong (which I 10000000% doubt, because GOD is real) at least I have had something good going for myself my entire life. When I am down, God is there. Miracles have happened. Its awesome! And when I die, I know I have heaven to go to. I mean, if I am wrong, what have I lost? Absolutely nothing! But if people who don't believe die, and find out that God does exist (which he does) what have they lost? EVERYTHING.
I prove a good point, no?
Posted by ChristianChild_=], Monday, 3 March 2008 11:49:02 AM
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ChristianChild - "I mean, if I am wrong, what have I lost?"

You have lost some of the joy of a life lived taking responsibility for your own destiny, beliefs and choices. The challenge and joy of what Boazy calls "make it up as you god morality". The difference between the experience a child has of life and the experience an adult has. The child may have a lot of fun and some adults may look back with longing at childhood but most adults don't want to be treated as children even if that means less responsibility.

Childhood can be comforting but being adult is better for those who embrace it.

What if when you die god turns out to be muslim or god turns out to be Ogg represented by a carving in jungle hut somewhere?

The chances of selecting the correct god and correct way of following him/her/it are very remote and unless you make the right call you have lost much of what life can be. A pretty big loss really.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 3 March 2008 12:38:24 PM
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BD
“If you don’t ‘want to believe, you won’t”
Yes I honesty would- if Jesus/God personally knocked on my door to turn MY water in my fridge into everlasting Merlot as I and other witnesses (skeptical scientists as well as theists) were watching then I WOULD believe. (I thought I’d make the order ‘everlasting’ – and I’d even donate the money I save on buying Merlot to a church of God’s choice!)

”I'd call that 'Game/Set/Match'.... you don't WANT to believe no matter what.”
No offense but it sounds more like you WANT to believe no matter what.
I assume that once one accepts religion one becomes gullible.
Why is it so hard for you and Philo to see that it’s far more likely that people’s subconscious mind can heal their body then it is to believe in faith healings?
How else would you explain the placebo effect? (Unless perhaps God miraculously turns these sugar pills into real medication as people swallow them).

Philo,
Verifiable facts will not convince the gullible blinded by religiosity.

Mega Bites,
I feel the same way (well almost). The thing that blows me out is that some theists give God credit for all the great things that happen in life (and even claim that these things are God’s miracles) while they blame mankind for all the crap that happens in the world.
Posted by Celivia, Monday, 3 March 2008 1:19:15 PM
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CC “I prove a good point, no?”
You are talking about Pascal’s Wager. But believing in a supernatural being is not something I and many other ‘unbelievers’ can choose to do.
I could pretend to believe in a god, but wouldn’t God know that I’d be only pretending and simply judge me as being dishonest?
I think that if there were a god it would at least be a rational one, a reasonable one. S/he’d look at how one actually lived one’s life- how has one treated other human beings, animals, the earth?

Why would a reasonable God prefer people who blindly believe? Perhaps a reasonable God values people who question and investigate life more than those who blindly believe anything they're told.
If God so badly wants us to believe, then he has to present some evidence of his existence.

And, as RObert pointed out, how would you know whether you’ve chosen the correct religion?
Posted by Celivia, Monday, 3 March 2008 1:25:13 PM
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Robert,
I did not think you believed in a destiny beyond this life. Quote, "You have lost some of the joy of a life lived taking responsibility for your own destiny." I find most Christians I know take total responsibility for this life as admirable citizens as it affects their afterlife. So what destiny are you talking about?

Celivia,
The basis for your belief is based in selfishness and self interest. I suggest you get out more and turn other people's ordinary lives into a top shelf drop and you will find life. Quote, "Yes I honesty would- if Jesus/God personally knocked on my door to turn MY water in my fridge into everlasting Merlot as I and other witnesses (skeptical scientists as well as theists) were watching then I WOULD believe. (I thought I’d make the order ‘everlasting’ – and I’d even donate the money I save on buying Merlot to a church of God’s choice!)"
God is not found in religion, God is found reality.

I have just read a site that challenges the millions of years erosion theory and such indicates short term existence.
http://creationontheweb.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5612&Itemid=99999999
Posted by Philo, Monday, 3 March 2008 3:59:09 PM
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