Boazy said: "it's a foregone conclusion, an absolute certainty, and irresistable force.. yes..I will try to Liberate (convert) not just Celivia but all who come here."

Just out of interest, has anyone here been converted by Boazy? Has anyone felt closer to god after reading his posts?

Or has anyone else, like me, felt even less sympathy for Christianity the more Boazy posts?

Vanilla, for the record Boazy does a great job of reminding me why the fundamentalist christain god is an abhorent construct.

Boazy has impressive help from some of his less well humoured friends but even without them his contributions are enough to keep me well away from that type of christianity.

R0bert

To Noah, God gives a command after the Flood:

So God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them: "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move on the earth, and on all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hand." (Genesis 9:1-2)

OK....so God sure got the "multiply," "fear" and "dread" bit right and we've done what he told us to do and trashed everything that has got in our way including bumping off a few million of our own species in His name and in defence of His religion.

Oh yes, but back to planet Earth. Perhaps the believers will now ask him if he could overcome the deaf, blind and dumb afflictions he's had to endure for a couple of thousand years, and advise us how to get out of the mess his command created for us in the first place?

I've been sitting here reading all of your posts - laughing at some - being depressed at others. But that's all right. We've got different ways of looking at things - depending I suppose on our culture, upbringing , education, and personal experiences.

Why do I still believe? I've tried to answer that in my earlier post - but realised - it wasn't a very good response. So again I asked myself, "Why do I still believe?"

I was raised a Catholic. And slowly with time, I began to wonder how did we ever produce the legalistic Church that took the treasures of the Gospel and transformed them into wards and ideas that can tell a modern person how to live and love.
Our theology became a tale of tired truths. I began to reject such narrowness. I needed freedom from a legalistic Church that had transformed the simplicity of a personal and Christian love into a world of fear and guilt.

The Church did not encourage us to think. It trained us to defend. We were not asked to reflect, but to memorize.

We were taught to keep laws, to avoid sin, to fear hell, and to carry a cross that we'd built ourselves.

Why do I still believe? I really don't know. I just know that I do.

Yes, hands up everybody who's been converted to Christianity by Boazy's activities in this forum!

Philo said “Creationism makes man responsible for the maintenance and sustainability of his environment Gen 2:15.”
Ah, are you saying that theists care for the environment better than atheists, and is that why the Christian right love the Greens so much?

Dickie made an excellent point about multiplying- does your god expect us to keep on multiplying even though with more than 6 billion population it’s very hard to maintain the earth’s resources?

Snake said, “you might find BOAZ trying to convert you!” Hehe, now that sounds scary! I’m safe though, there is no way anyone could convert me unless it’s God him/herself knocking on my door and turn my bottle of water into a quality Merlot!

Vanilla: “has anyone else, like me, felt even less sympathy for Christianity the more Boazy posts ”
Generally, yes! I’m really put off by Bible quotes and usually just skim over them.
I haven’t read a large amount of posts by BD, but from what I have seen I most often disagree although I have to admit that he sometimes has some good discussion points to share.