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Accountability in Government?

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Thanks for your response Jolanda. I do understand what you are going through and you are sticking to your guns and going in fighting.

Have you tried all avenues within the media? Nothing gets things done like an expose' when it means someone in government will have to take notice. ABC - Four Corners or 7.30 Report or dare I suggest shows like Today Tonight and Current Affair. The latter two are not as reputable but at least they might bring these anomalies out into the open and force a response from the relevant authorities. If the big media outlets are difficult to access why not try the local paper or radio station in the first instance and move upwards as the case gets more attention.

I know postings are limited on here so no need to respond to me just thought I would throw out some suggestions but I am aware that you have probably covered most of these anyway.

As someone said sometimes you can't win all the battles but you are giving it your best shot.
Posted by pelican, Saturday, 23 February 2008 2:34:18 PM
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Vexatious eh? Wonder why that would be?

You'll really enjoy their university years. Much larger scales to work with.

"While there's no doubt that you feel aggrieved, has it occurred to you that you might be wrong?" I'd like to know the answer to that too.

How do you plan to relieve the boredom when they've all finished school?
Posted by chainsmoker, Saturday, 23 February 2008 2:51:03 PM
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Taryn,

I agree, Jolanda needs to get real. There are people out there with real problems. I am not saying that things havent happened but I have not seen any evidence that suggest anything was done on purpose.

I ask jolanda," So what you are saying is that the DET arranged for children and teachers to make up stories about your son. In another words the DET made phone calls or visits to the family homes of serveral children and asked the to conspire against your son."

"Isnt it more belivable that maybe the children involved and your son didnt get along and the day your son was away they choose to address it with the principal therefore the date was incorrect.

Could this be somewhat more believable."

and of course she chooses not to reply by saying

For those who choose not to look at the evidence and still post their opinion I suggest that they cannot make an informed decision if they do not know the facts

Which shows that Jolanda may not be telling the whole truth about every matter. SHe is trying to paint a picture against the DET. I find it very hard to believe, actually impossible to believe that the DET contacted kids and teachers and asked them to conspired against Jolanda and her son. This is all fabricated. If not Jolanda show us the evidence!

Come on Jolanda, if this didnt happen tell us exactly what happened.
tell us about your version of "the witch hunt"
Posted by Annoyed Parent, Saturday, 23 February 2008 3:09:34 PM
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"I thank those who have taken the time to post and I will reply when I can. For those who choose not to look at the evidence and still post their opinion I suggest that they cannot make an informed decision if they do not know the facts."

Jolanda, as one poster to whom this comment is probably directed, I would like to apologize if I have caused offence. By my own admission I don't know all "the facts", so I do stand to be corrected.

There's no hurry, when you have time you can address the point I made. I don't need a full rundown, just enough of the facts that I don't know to counter my statement which I do still stand by firmly.

You have to expect when you start a personal thread like this that you are going to face some criticism. Most of us are more interested in broader philosophical debate than we are in the detailed ins and outs of personal stories, I know I am. If however this situation is causing you personal grief then on that basis alone of course you have my sympathy and I certainly don't want to add to your problems in any way.
Posted by Bronwyn, Saturday, 23 February 2008 3:52:54 PM
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Nobody contacted the kids Annoyed parent. What the school did was call my sons friends into the office and they said to them that there had been allegations of harassment made against my son and that if it wasn’t my son who did it that it must have been one of them. Then they left all three boys in a room together and told them to write a statement. The boys had no idea what the school was talking about but they were scared, scared that they would be blamed, so they wrote what they were told and that is that my son harassed this kid. Apparently the statement had not dates, not times, no information - nothing. All statements were identical that just said that my son did it. The boys were left alone in a room together to write the statements.

It is also a fact that at parent teacher interview the acting deputy principal told the parents of my sons friends that they should keep their sons away from my son because he was a troublemaker. Problem was that my son hasn’t actually done anything wrong – he was being victimized.

I am just having a break so I do not have time to go through the posts and reply individually but I just want to say one thing, my complaints are not causing my children distress. The treatment that they are receiving from the Department is what is causing them the distress. The fact that my husband and I stand up and fight for their right to be treated fairly shows them that we care and gives them strength and hope that maybe things will be better.

Thank you Pelican and Bronwyn and all others who have shown understanding. I will try to get on and post in a more in-depth way when I can.

Oh and Chainsmoker we have a right complaint about injustices. That does not mean you are vexatious.
Posted by Jolanda, Saturday, 23 February 2008 6:55:35 PM
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Hi Jolanda

so the school did it. Not the DET.

So there was an incident over a period of time at school with a child and a group of kids (your sons friends) , the day your son was away the school called in all the kids and told the kids that someone has to own up or all of them would get in trouble so all the kids that were involved said it was your son ( he was the only one not there at that time) is that right.

OR

there was no complaint from any other child and the school made it all up with instructions from the DET.

is this right?

Was there any other child involved, that didnt belong to the group of friends?
Posted by Annoyed Parent, Saturday, 23 February 2008 7:53:17 PM
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