TRTL....(and Fuzzy Foxy)

I'd probably have a bit of a giggle myself at your reasonable attempt at comedy. (though if you and Foxy want a real laugh.. you should see that video I linked to..its a Chasers one.. and they (shock horror) are giving 'it' to the ex Mufti.. has quite a twist at the end though)

TRTL.. seriously mate... SERRRRIously.... you used a phone handbook as an attempt to show how silly it is to quote ancient texts. But surprise suprise.. that handbook is very relevant to users of that phone.

Translating this to "our" contemporary world... I mentioned a trial.
You would do well to contemplate how much damage 500kg of Ammonium nitrate could to at the crowded MCG.

You might also benefit from realizing that the key to understanding what binds that group together.. is.. the very thing.. in the very WAY I've been harping about for the past few yrs.

It truly boggles my mind, that in view of blatant (you cant get more blatant than 500kg of explosive) in your face evidence.. and sound legal minds who are saying the very things I'm saying.. yet.. NOT see the connection to the texts, or the history.. or .. perhaps just not care about it ?

Perhaps I should just retreat and fade away... let it all happen.. no comment..no warning.. no anything.. lets just pray and in your case hope... your children arn't one day watching the footy when *booooom*
occurs.

One reason for recurring themes is.. 'new people'... once oldies like us have had our back and forth and know each others position.. ok.. not much more to say, but then along comes a Foxy or someone..and they just don't have much clue.. simply full of generous human warmth and love... but disconnected from the broader real world..and the things their gentle attitude makes them vulnerable to.. hence. 'repetition'
cheers.

.............Perhaps I should just retreat and fade away... let it all happen.. no comment..no warning.. no anything..

..yes?....,Yes?.....Yessss?.......YES?...,YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!
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Dear Gibo,

trtl...er,...trtl doesn't worship..er,.. he doesn't worship Samsung mobile phones and ..er, pizza.

He-was-joking...

"simply full of generous human warmth and love"

Boazy you seem to love "youtube" so I've found a couple of youtube links which might help you understand Foxy. I'm not sure if this is the way Foxy see's it but when I consider Foxy's christainity this stuff seems to fit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CobNWUXb1M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZAT2ie_wl8&feature=related

"but disconnected from the broader real world" - connected enough to see through your misrepresentations and spin.

R0bert

Dear RObert,

Thank you for all your kind words in this, and several of the posts on this Forum. They are deeply appreciated.

I feel very humbled by the generosity shown to me by so many of the posters.

To me - religion - is such a personal, private matter (I don't have the "missionary" complex). And I certainly wouldn't dream of trying to convert anyone - or enforce my way of thinking onto anyone.

My father was an academic who firmly believed that tolerance,
and understanding were the keys - to our humanity. He was concerned that the world could become obsessed with the problems of hatred and aggression, that it would allow peace and love to be regarded as soft and weak. Yet our survival depends on their dominance.

Anyway, I regret having lost my dignity by trying to justify my beliefs. I shouldn't have done it - it should have remained - private.

Again, Thanks!

Foxy, you are more than welcome. Whilst I may not always agree with you I very much appreciate your approach and integrity.
In the face of the type of representation of christianity given by Boazy, Gibo and others it may be quite important that you do show the other face of it. Not to badger people with it but to show another face to a faith which is often shown in a very poor light by those with an evangelical bent.

Gibo your refusal to produce evidence of the acusations you made against other posters when you opened this thread suggests to me that you are doing what the bible calls "bearing false witness". It's a shame that you don't spend a bit more time on those aspects of christainity than on unsubstantiated prophecies and conspiracies.

R0bert

Boaz - you say that the phone user would take it quite seriously.

Yes. That actually reinforces my point - it's important to the phone user, and quite irrelevant to the rest of us. Hence, my point, that there's only so much ancient scripture you can handle before you just say, point blank, I just don't care.

In relation to your point about the bombings etc - nobody is denying that it's a possibility. Evidently there are a lot of people with very strange beliefs and priorities out there. Heck, Gibo honestly seems to believe in a prophecy about flying saucers.

(No offence Gibo, but you're plain wrong here - though, fortunately, you appear willing to shelter under a veil of self imposed ignorance, so I'm sure you can just ignore this anyway).

My point in my previous post, is that whilst there are people with obsessions, be they religious or otherwise, there are many who simply want to live and let live. Foxy is a fine example of this - as are the hundreds of millions of muslims who are quite happy to live their lives without being drawn into this global conflict you seem intent upon foisting upon them.

My point was that anybody can interpret a religion how they want.

Make no mistake boaz. Your preachings are against Islam, and by extension, hundreds of millions of people who have shown no sign of wishing violence upon the rest of us.
You can claim it's justified, because some fanatics will inevitably one day attack the rest of us.

Yes. I'm aware of that and I will feel great sadness when it occurs. Not only because of those who die, but because I fear our reaction will also hurt innocent people, such as the tens, perhaps hundreds, of thousands of Iraqi and Afghani civilians who have died in the last seven years.

Cont'd