ASymeonakis, as much as I usually diagree with runner, I think you missed his point. This is that both these despots were godless people that murdered many. I didnt see a reference to their being democratic at all.

If anyone thinks that western society is to blame for the current concerns over islamic fundamentalism, get your hands on a copy of Milton Giles "White Gold", which is the account of white (christian) slavery in North Africa, and the treatment under their muslim masters. Its truly horrific, and shows that not much has changed in islamic attitudes in the last 300 years.

The reality of Shariah law.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/05/wiran205.xml

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Two Iranian sisters convicted of adultery face being stoned to death after the supreme court upheld death sentences against them, Iranian media have reported.

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The two sisters were found guilty of adultery - a capital crime in Iran - after the husband of one of the pair presented a video showing them in the company of other men while he was away.

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The Etemad newspaper quoted Jabbar Solati, their lawyer, as saying that the sisters had initially been tried for "illegal relations" and had received 99 lashes. However, they were convicted of "adultery" in a second trial for the same incident.

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My understanding is that the two sisters have now been executed by stoning.

But who cares?

The feminists don't.

Most of the media don't.

The Archbishop of Canterbury doesn't.

NOBODY cares.

Why should I care?

stevenlmeyer wrote: "But who cares?

The feminists don't.

Most of the media don't.

The Archbishop of Canterbury doesn't.

NOBODY cares.

Why should I care?"

Clearly you don't, or you wouldn't be exploiting the situation to slag off the usual leftie suspects and list your pet peeves.

For those interested in acting on this issue, go here: http://stop-stoning.org/node/41

More info here: http://www.meydaan.com/English/Default.aspx
And here: http://www.wluml.org/english/index.shtml

Unfortunately, steven, these are feminist organisations - this news has gone like wildfire through feminists and blogging communities and mass lettering has worked in the past. We can only try. Either way, don't you worry - if you join the campaign and I promise never to tell you were once tainted. And you're free to bitch to continue bitching that feminists do nothing.

Who pays for all the travel arrangments that these two Sheilas have experienced?
Does the Australian Child Support Agency keep tabs on all the fathers regular payments?
How is it possible for a single mum with Kids to travel the world?
Their is nothing wrong with Islam per say,but these Ladies from the Bush have their own unique religion.I must start my own today.

BROCK...said "There is nothing wrong with Islam per se"....

sorry mate.. clearly you have not read many of my posts.

There is plenty wrong with Islam..at it's kernel... core.. roots.. foundations..

Do you not call institutionalized wife beating, and child exploitation 'problematic' ? have a read of surah 65:4 and see how it refers to divorcing 'those who have not yet had their courses' (Menstual cycle)

You dont take issue with
a) Marrying pre-pubescent female children
b) Consummating that marriage
c) DIVORCING them...?

Maybe you need to study Islam more, or just open your eyes.. either will do the trick.

I did not miss his point I tried to encourage him to write more, I want to give my answer at the end