I am atheist, I do not care for any religious or god. I respect the freedom of speak for any person, without any discrimination and I am ready to fight to protect this basic right. I do not know anything about =Jihade Sheilas= and I can not tell anything about them. It is their right to believe in the Islam and protect it. The way they use to protect or serve their religious must comply with the basic democratic values and human rights and I am not ready to do any discount on them. I am against sharia law and jihad. It is their right to leave Australia any time and return back if they are Australian citizens or permanent residents. Australian government not only has the right but it is its duty to protect Australians from any threat. It is the Australian justice system which will decide if any person is a threat, not the government.
Generally it is better to respect human rights and democratic values than to Exaggerate the terror threat, violating them.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

As much as I dislike Islam I think a country with so many fundamentalist atheist who are happy to see thousands of aborted babies each year really are not in a position to judge. The atheist seem to have more in common with Islam and their death cult. Between Stalin and Mao I am sure far more people have been murdered than even those done in the name of God. Add to this the slaughter of babies (mainly for convenience) and it is no wonder those who hold to secular humanism dogmas tend to be apologist for Islam and hate Christ and His followers.

runner
this is new for me!! I did not know that Stalin and Mao was democrats and respected the human rights.
runner hundreds of million of people lost their life in the name of the god, and it is seemed that much more are ready to die for the god(s).
Big problem with religious fundamentalists. I hope you recognize that over any god or religious stand the democracy and human rights.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaid

Hi Bazz...yep..I am full bottle AND full THROTTLE on that.

Symionakis old son..... you want freedom of speech!

GOOD.. we are on the same page. Now.. do you believe in fighting those who would PREVENT your freedom of speech ? I do.. with words, laws, protests, awareness campaigns.. all that the law allows me/us to do.

I say.. 'deportation/arrest/incarceration' to anyone coming onto our streets calling for 'extermination' of US..if we don't follow their rules about their religion.(see the vids)

Few publishers are bold enough to publish anything critical of Islam for fear of PHYSICAL reprisal.. that alone is enough reason to utterly condemn this warlike ideology and hunt it out from Australia in every legal and spiritual way possible. You might be an atheist, and I respect your desire to be that, if you ever wish to know about the Gospel of salvation in Christ.. I'm only a message away and happy to provide all information to help.
On the political level, I'm happy to work with anyone, including gays, who will stand with me against the evils we face.

If you wish to know the 'end game'.. where it's all headed.. a glimpse at Minnesota would be valuable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqn-9_FUBUc

Note also the sentiments expressed by the 'Islamic Thinkers Society' about the country which gives them the freedom to speak.....

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=HO74GwUTZj4 "Sharia Law" in the US?

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ipsYKjHJktQ "Politicians speak about Islam" (part 1 of 2)
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=c2-B1INyKF8 same..Part 2 of 2

Very revealing of what the PC media won't report.

PS.. if you want to see an interesting trial at the moment and are in melbourne.. goto the county court.. 13 Muslims on trial for terrorism.

Runner
Have have just demonstrated the first real type of racist statement I have seen since opening this thread.

Other than that I think our P M can be very proud of his flock.''

Atheists have never been the argument behind women having the right to chose if she has children or not.

What an extrordinary comment which was almost fired off as a weapon against ASymeonakis.

However speaking of religion and nutters in case you hadnt noticed the world is over populated.

If I had to vote for a religion it would be one with the common sence to do something to take some control over birth rate to stop millions starving to death in the name of whatever God.

On a more personal note I would like to point out that all these mumbling about a woman having a termination for whatever reason to me are a bunch of religious hypicrital nutters IMOP.

Church Leaders around Australia have remained silent as to the flight of millions of Australian Animals being sent LIVE to third word countries .
I think Senator Andrew Bartlett best summed it up when he said to another pro life nutter+ It would be impossible to inflict the same amount of pain on something that is less than a grain of rice and not yet born -unlike the barbaric treatment of millions of Australian animals in the cruel live trade.

"Well Spoken indeed."
What a bunch of hypicrits IMOP

I wonder if those two women have any spare room. Perhaps 'you' would be more comfortable with people who hold extreme views.

Do be careful not to trip over the RSPCA thread on your way out.

I watched some of the documentary.
I was horrified to see to aussie women speak the way they did of the Muslim faith.
I found it quite aggressive, these women where very angry.
mabye their is some truth in there though.
Look at the religions track record, the killing that has gone on for over three centuries.
Aussies are known to speak their minds, which can also be known as a form of telling the truth..telling it 'how it is'.
I couldn't imagine giving up four of my children, it is sad for the children, who will guide them now? and under which faith?(religious teaching)-they will become estranged from their mother and possibly never truly recover from being abandoned.
Interesting to see two Aussie women brashly speaking up like that about the Muslim faith,wont they be persecuted when they return to Iraq, as women are barley seen and never heard there...wont they be crucified for letting go of their mouths so?