Well gee whiz. Aren't you just too good for words.
Ditch,
it's not about that. It's about realising one's own shortcomings & taking action. When Australians express disapproval re ethnic groups who refuse to let go that part of their culture which obviously is the source of so much discontent out here then the question must be asked. Who's ignorant policy invited them to stay in Australia & consented to the practice of that part of their culture. The fact that the radical useless amongst them managed to flourish here is due to only one people. Australians !
Every nation has it's share of hypocrites.
So far as cheap goods & lower wages across much of Asia is concerned it's not a moral right to exploit & behave immorally. If or when wages were so low that that your only option to survive is to sell your children to sex tourists or have them work alongside you in a cafe or shirt factory then I'm sure you'd feel very badly about those who take advantage of your circumstances. Mix that with some indoctrinated religious fanaticism you reap what you sow.

Individual said "it's not about that. It's about realising one's own shortcomings & taking action. When Australians express disapproval re ethnic groups who refuse to let go that part of their culture which obviously is the source of so much discontent out here then the question must be asked. Who's ignorant policy invited them to stay in Australia & consented to the practice of that part of their culture. The fact that the radical useless amongst them managed to flourish here is due to only one people. Australians !"

Ignorant policy? Why so? There are faults on both sides and we all know it. Failing to assimilate and learn the local lingo is an irritant for many especially when terrorism is the hot topic. But it's always been the way of immigrant groups to stick together in a foreign culture. It's hardly surprising that this is the case nor is it surprising that there is local resentment.

Accusing the locals of hypocrisy solves what?

Accusing the locals of hypocrisy solves what?
Nothing Ditch !
First of all it's not an accusation. It's a fact. Secondly, when people are not inclined to be more community minded you get what we have now in 2008.
Surely you can see some truth in this statement? As much as it sounds like I'm stirring crap, I assure that that is the last thing I want to do. Hollywood movies have been made & countless novels & books have been written about greed, religion, suburbian indifference, jealousy, racism, power & plain stupidity. Some of these movies & books reflect reality to a frightening degree and yet, people still don't look at themselves & realise that they are a cog in that big wheel called selfishness. Again I recommend to sit back & think. Think about how much we all contribute to the destruction of the environment, to the rising cost of living, to the inadequacy of the health services, to insane real estate pricing & the insanity of religion. Top that off with a justice system which rewards the bad & you get, yes mate, 2008.

I don't have to sit back and contemplate the selfishness of a large number of the population. It's so blatant and severe there's no ignoring it even if you wanted to. What's it take to get that same proportion to care?

No need to answer, it's a rhetorical question.

BD jumps in between Ditch and Individual..."Woah you blokes"

Both of you seem right to me.. but there is a dimension of the equation which seems to be escaping both of you...

When Individual blames 'Australians' for the policy which allows these radicals to come here, hmm it's not quite that simple.

Political expedience often means that some things are not made a major plank of electioneering, they rather form the stuff of backroom deals.

We seldom get what we voted for.. we ALways get hidden extra's that come with the bundle.

How many Aussies would have voted for Sheikh Hilali to not be deported ? He was nurtured by Keating and Leo McKlay to keep the voters of Lakemba happy for an election.

So.. this is one reason I go to such lengths to hightlight the dangers of unrestricted non discriminatory immigration policy. We SHOULD discriminate on the basis of any creed which is a threat to our freedom and peace.