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The whole industry requires changes. We need Gas for larger beasts.

Our method isn’t fool proof. After eighty or so kills the vibration of the stun gun can step in and the slaughtermans arm aches.

Thats when its not nice. Some animals are stunned more than once. We need men rotated every eighty or so IMOP.

In order to run a successful plant you need a beast down every twelve seconds.

The problems with Halal however have been endless.

Time being a major factor.

Many large plants refused to do Halal any more a long time ago.

Also it controls live exports to a degree. [Explain later]

RSPCA do not inspect Abattoirs unless invited. RSPCA Australia wide has a MOU with the DPI State Governments and AQIS.

ALP State Governments got into a dog fight with the federal Government some time ago over this if you recall.

The only plants that were pre stunning we know for certain about were the export AQIS accredited ones and even then there was drama because some were looking the other wayfor Kosher.

Re PETA and AA. Look I mentioned Bridgett because she approves of pale HKM project.

Nicky your favorite organizations have been invited to meet with Muslim leaders here and world wide to put this program into some real action.

They both declined. That’s a fact. So to did Hugh Wirth when he was RSPCA President. WSPA still refuse.

I am not trying to be rude to you. I am just giving you facts.

The live exports have grown in strength.

I can see you’re sincere in your efforts. However you do yourself and the animals no favors by marrying yourself to PETA in your work.


Read the sub to the animal welfare Senate enquiry and you will see they were going to spend big money on looking at a gas to put these animals to sleep before the throat was cut.

As far as I am concerned it’s not overseas it’s the leadership right here in Australia that has gone wrong.

It’s the Australian Government.

Nicky said

I'm not really sure where Brigitte Bardot and PETA fit here,

I think you tend to overlook the fact that both PETA and Animals Australia actively promote a frozen/carcass trade from Australia to the Middle East.

Nicky supporting a AA peta .
"GREAT"

I will tell you what Bridgett has to do with it Nicky.

2003 we first contacted her.

Requested she write to PM Howard regarding live exports and the Cormo which she did.

Bridgett was delighted with the MOU with Muslim leaders working to form co-jointly ownded farms and plants and slaughter here.

She was even more excited about the prospect of them building gas plants for larger animals.

All of these things have asked peta and aa to be involved in and they regected.

That IS the simple truth.

We cant do the whole of this country alone!

You only have to look above Nicky at your "predicted- none reply again to see your attitude." Are you waiting on advise perhaps?

Each time we have raised ideas - such as the petition for Rudd to honour his promises= The assistance re shopping centers for suvey for pigs and letter box drops.-

Raising the issue re broken promises in Parliment. All our ideas .
Oh yes you all say good idea lets do it.

Then when run off opening another thread ignore us which is rude and praise peta.

Our members donate to other groups on a regular basis.
peta being one of them'AA another. Its a policy of ours to help others!
We are not anti peta so why are you so anti pale.?

Peta refuse to discuss any of the projects that Bridgett fully supports.

I find THAT simply amazing.

We wont be bullied and we ARE the only ones with the contacts the MOUS the plans to actually do something about live exports and Intensive farming .

Instead of AA and PETA welcoming these projects like Bridgett they have flatly refused to work with us.

Instead of being delighted we are treated as the enermy.

I find that beyond the pale