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A Good Start To Rebuilding conservatives

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It has been a good start indeed not Costello but Turnbull back on it a very good move.
That young bloke is it Pyne? best choice for deputy and a well equipped team.
Tony Abbot? gee like a few posters here he has not learned a thing before the next election he Costello our ex foreign minister will have left the house by elections to bring in new talent are a must.
The falling on the sword of Vail may not be the end if an AWB inquire takes place we will hear more if not? another by election.
A very real problem I must highlight, in truth in some states even I doubt Labor is worth electing, but the NSW right is nothing less than a blight on the party new directions please.
And only the best will do Rudd has no workchoices in his plans and is unlikely to make it easy.
last?
Well an understanding of the rejection of fear and lies hate and spite ,it did not work, tell me the voters are stupid and I will ask you to look at the dill in your mirror.
We need strong opposition and I think we are getting it.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 26 November 2007 6:45:38 PM
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Dear Belly,

We do need strong opposition. But I have a feeling that unless the
Libs get their act together - it may be a while before they provide it.
It's probably going to be a fight for the leadership. I can't believe that some of the 'old guard' are going to give up that easily (like Abbott). Turnbull is ambitious - and he's going for it - but will they give it to him? We'll just have to wait and see. I'm hoping that they will realize their strength lies in 'new faces.' And not the same old formula of the past. They need to go and have a 're-think' about what they did wrong - and re-structure the party completely. Otherwise they won't have a prayer the next time 'round either.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 10:11:10 AM
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Costello turned down the leadership. Haaaa hahahahahaha haaaa! Definitely the best he’s ever done.

That gives us just a tiny ray of hope that the Libs won’t follow on with the same awful continuous growth philosophy that they have always had and will actually consider the need for this country to stop growing. Now if Turnbull would just reconsider and pull back from his leadership aspirations, and Abbott and Bishop and Nelson…and….

O what’s the point. There all just so far off-track that there is no chance of them being an effective opposition with any of the current mob.

An effective opposition would be a party that pushes really strongly for maximised attention to be paid to peak oil, population stabilisation, a dynamic steady state economy and genuine sustainability. An effective opposition would be considerably greener than the Greens.

This is the sort of thing that we need at this point in time and especially as we head into the near future where all sorts of our past follies are going to rise up and bite us on the bum. And what better time is there than right now at the start of a new term with the leadership wide open for the Libs to realise this.

They need to be so very different from what they have been and from the government, and they need to do it in a way that will appeal to the populace. The people are warming rapidly to the imperative of sustainability and the prerequisite to bring a halt to rampant human expansionism.

I reckon it is time that the Greens made some very strong efforts to influence the development of a new direction for the Libs.
Posted by Ludwig, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 4:07:52 PM
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I am both surprised and full of hope apart from Abbot, what drives that man?new leadership is on the way.
No coalition please just one party one set of policy's coming together of both party's.
Abbot would hurt his party badly if he won, he will not like Vaille and Costello along with Downer the best thing they can do for their party is leave.
By elections new blood new ideas and then to overcome the mountain John Howard built Rudd we however need strong opposition.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 4:12:37 PM
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Today in our National news paper a respected reporter throws his hat into the ring supporting Tony Abbot as conservative leader.
So very wrong! it must be clear this defeat was nothing less than total rejection of the very style of this government.
Abbot came out of the election as he went in tainted, his time in industrial relations was awful, he did his party no favors with his insult to our Berni Banton, yet he claims to have people skills?
A coming together of both party's nats and Libs is a must Turnbull has an idea of the needed direction Pyne would do well in second spot, in truth Abbots best contribution would be a by election.
Let the governments workchoices legislation pass and consider ways to remove the NSW rights influence or stay in opposition nation wide.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 4:20:50 AM
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“So very wrong!”

Agreed Belly – Abbot is a complete no-no-noOOOOOoo!

But what makes you think Turnbull would be one iota better?

The thought of him as leader really makes me shuddududududududder!! I can’t imagine how on earth he might improve the Libs position. He certainly wouldn’t take the party in the political direction that this country needs, as I outlined above.

What about Pyne? I wouldn’t have a clue.

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Corrections yo my first post;

That blasted missing word syndrome strikes again….

‘Definitely the best THING he’s ever done.’

And “There all just so far off-track” shoulduv been ‘They're all just so far off-track’

(:>\ pfffff
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 7:32:23 AM
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