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A Good Start To Rebuilding conservatives

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As a Labor voter, I'd say Tony Abbott and Christopher Pyne have the best chance of keeping the Liberal Party in opposition for at least two terms. So I vote them.
Posted by botheration, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 12:42:49 PM
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Ludwig in my mind Turnbull is from the left of his party, now Abbot has found reality only 2 remain Nelson has the backing of the NSW right, the best boat anchor his party has.
Without an end to the thuggish dirty letter boxing and much more that is produced in that camp no opposition can rebuild.
Make no mistake the NSW right is bad news for its own party branch stacking to remove real talent and real filth has taken place.
I am more than comfortable with a good strong opposition, and have no doubt it will be no easy task to unseat Rudd.
Watching Queensland today you have to ask can the party rebuild even in time for 2010?
Like him or not Turnbull can do it, maybe win 3 seats back nation wide against the flow.
Hopefully he could retain the 5 seats subject to by elections in his mob by then too.
by by by by Johny good by, have to stop that! keep shouting workchoices that one old fella at the strangest times!
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 4:36:59 PM
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Hi guys and girls,
My name is Scott Clark.
I am a member of the Liberal Party and I hear alot of people saying the Liberals are finished, destroyed.
Look back to 2004 and you will see the Labor Party was decimated on a far greater scale than we the Liberals were this past election.
Three years later the Labor goverment was swept to power.
They say 2 days in politics is a lifetime, 3 years is more than enough time for us to rebuild and regroup under the Leadership of Malcolm Turnbull.

Thankyou
Scott Clark
Posted by Liberalparty, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 7:59:00 PM
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Hello Scott. Welcome to OLO.

What do you make of my suggested change in direction for the Libs, in line with what this country desperately needs, as expressed in my first post above?

I’m sure many Liberals would dismiss it outright. But I’m also sure that it would not run against the basic philosophies of the party.
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 8:49:48 PM
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Hi Ludwig,

Thank you for your welcome.
I have been a Lberal member for some 8 years. You are right that now there is no better time for us as a party to think about taking a new direction.
With Malcolm Turnbull as the new leader I can assure you he is a very nice guy and seriously smart politician.
Malcolm I believe will be able to take the Liberals into a new future, keep us united and keep inline with our conseervative attitudes and policy.
I don't believe an effective opposition needs to be greener than the Greens as the the Greens can be labled extremist. The Greens may have it in good spirit but however their policy would do serious economic harm.
A good Party needs to be economic smart, climate smart and also have a good heart one of compassion.
John Howard whome I know personally did always have the best of intentions, he was just stuck in his ways sometimes.
He is a very nice man and would not have done anything intentionally to harm Australian Families.
The best path for the Liberals is to rebuild, unite and recount on our mistakes and learn from them.

Thankyou
Scott Clark
Posted by Liberalparty, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 9:35:33 PM
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Scott

“You are right that now there is no better time for us as a party to think about taking a new direction.”

Glad you agree.

“Malcolm I believe will be able to … keep us united and keep inline with our conservative attitudes and policy.”

Hold on – is there a conflict here between a new direction and conservative attitudes and policy?

Perhaps it is time to develop progressive attitudes and policy. Perhaps the Australian public is a bit tired of conservatism, especially when they can see that the world as we know it is very likely to radically change in the near future.

“…as the Greens can be labled extremist.”

What Green policies or philosophy do you think are extremist?

continued
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 10:53:38 PM
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