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A Good Start To Rebuilding conservatives

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Brendan Nelson? No way. Hopefully he won't last. As for julie Bishop,
well, we'll have to wait and see. She's no Gillard that's for sure.
As for Turnbull - better him than Abbott. Don't the Libs have anyone that's a worthy match - for Rudd and Gillard?
Probably not.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 29 November 2007 7:41:30 PM
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I will not be disappointed! I go on record here and now , the best possible conservative leadership has no easy task to win the next 2 elections.
Australia is more than a economy, we have hopes and aspirations far bigger than our bank balance.
While my stand as a trade unionist /ALP welded on activist is clear do not under value the true unfairness of workchoices, it stings still.
Do not miss the sharp turn in history, the contempt some unions and some officials bought on themselves is well earned.
But the avalanche of hate and fear about unions failed to sell during this campaign.
Rudd, remember he is elected now I have no need to sell him, will re craft IR in a balanced way, unions will not be totally happy.
Hence the continuing your rights at work campaign but business will not find reason to want it overturned.
Bishop must face reality, she can not govern from opposition , to want to keep workchoices may make her famous in Perth, but needlessly hurts her promising profile here.
Nelson is a part timer a seat warmer the fight for him to just hold his position will be less than a year.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 30 November 2007 5:32:16 AM
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Maybe Belly the best possible conservative leadership has just won government.
Posted by palimpsest, Friday, 30 November 2007 7:18:05 AM
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Friend I can feel even understand the hurt in your remark, once I would have shared it!
But while it rankles you it is true.
My life has gone from youthful dreams of Communism and the far more acceptable to me now Socialism.
Both failed me, both got it wrong, both could not attract a crowd if entry included free tickets to the Melbourne cup and football grand final of your choice.
The depth of the left on the net is deeper than in the real world.
Labor ,my ALP has often been flogged in elections as a result of policy's not shared by more than a minority.
Even if that is what we have New Labor is at least going to achieve something.
We in opposition can do nothing.
Just think Rudd's first task AFTER he won ,not to win votes get out and meet the homeless, go to schools and ask what can we do, I am so proud of him!
Greens want more far more, but face it! Australia does not!
Some will never understand Howard's war on the already poor, even he did not understand the full impact of workchoices.
Compare my party to his and tell me there is no difference, my reply in advance is you have much to learn.
Watch a candidate with a future Bishop use her first public speech to defend workchoices and tell me my party is like hers.
How many Australians left right or center would feel threatened by renewal in education social service delivery accountability from public servants and governments?
How many would cry about paying more to fight climate change or save water?
In any case we can get used to conservative Labor for 9 years at least only the true conservatives can replace us no other chance will ever exist in the country, no leftist dreams just reality.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 30 November 2007 11:43:23 AM
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Dear Belly,

I fully agree with you. The Libs will have it tough - and rightly so.
But selecting a team that was pro-Workchoices (Nelson & Bishop).
What on earth are they thinking? At least Turnbull was for a Republic - which shows some Maturity on his part. As for Pyne - weeeeelll - he's about as exciting as Ruddick or Andrews!

Where are the 'good guys' in the Liberal Party? Or is that a redundant question?
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 30 November 2007 12:53:30 PM
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Foxy unlike Nelson I will not one day swap sides, my views here are honest ones ,what is best for Conservatives.
Like you I am stunned that workchoices is still unburied by this Wil Robinson team.
Bishop however has to say idiotic things like that, she is from WA currently running away from the rest of us.
Her future seems assured ,she has talent and if she can bite the bullet of reality, understand the defeat and its causes she will do well, if not? let us see she will learn.
Nelson has the dead hand of the NSW right on his shoulder, only failure awaits him.
Turnbull like him or not had an idea we should have seen even as late as mid campaign, blame it on Howard.
True, worthwhile and even smart but the ever intruding hand of the extremists ,yes that is the word, who from NSW far right have blighted the party had its say.
In truth they said do not mention the defeat it will go away.
Dreaming of an ALP explosion? do not count on it!
Get in touch with middle Australia it may take a while the surge away from Liberal paths was a very big one.
One party not a coalition now, rebuilding starts with and end to blaming anyone but the group in charge for this defeat.
I walk the streets and still hear rubbish, childlike rubbish about the voters getting it wrong!?
You can not rebuild if you have such a foundation.
Bishop has a future she however must understand WA alone can not win elections, if she learns that one day she may make PM.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 30 November 2007 3:03:05 PM
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