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What Odds On Trump's M.E Peace Plan?

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The wars not over.
Trumps a chump, or a flat out lying sack of horse manure.

Should Donald Trump be thanked for the Gaza ceasefire and hostage releases?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-15/donald-trump-should-not-be-thanked-for-the-gaza-ceasefire/105887220

"The US may claim the war is over, but Israel's defence minister has already flagged plans to attack Hamas, and Israeli fire and air strikes continue in Gaza."

The political theatre of Donald Trump's Middle East trip masks glaring questions about the peace plan
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-14/donald-trump-motivations-for-gaza-peace-deal-crucial-for-future/105884836

"What is more, what Netanyahu said about the deal when standing beside Trump at the White House — and what he said subsequently in Hebrew — were significantly different.

As Al Jazeera reported at the time, Netanyahu had pledged to accept the plan when standing next to Trump at the White House.

"But a few hours later — and this time speaking in Hebrew rather than English — Netanyahu couched that agreement, telling his domestic audience that he definitely had not agreed to a Palestinian state and the Israeli military would remain in most of Gaza," Al Jazeera wrote."

Netanyahu and Trump are attempting to sell the entire world a steaming pile of BS.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 17 October 2025 7:06:25 AM
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Maduro denounces 'regime change' war after Trump's threat to strike Venezuela
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/oct/15/donald-trump-federal-government-shutdown-redistricting-voting-rights-act-kash-patel-us-politics-live-news-updates?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-68f036238f085ab6fee7090e#block-68f036238f085ab6fee7090e

"Nicolás Maduro, the Venezuelan president, denounced what he called “coups d’etat orchestrated by the CIA” shortly after Donald Trump said he was considering strikes against Venezuelan cartels inside the country.

“No to war in the Caribbean … No to regime change … No to coups d’etat orchestrated by the CIA,” the leftist leader said in an address to a committee set up after Washington deployed warships in the Caribbean for what it said was an anti-drug operation."

HAVENT WE BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH OF THIS BS ALREADY?

Everyone will have their 2 flaming cents worth on the topic when the shite hits the fan and we're faced with the consequences.
How about we face up to the bloody cause of all these messes?

CASE IN QUESTION.

Nov 2013 (Pre-Maidan!): Ukraine Deputy has proof of USA staging civil war in Ukraine
http://youtu.be/y9hOl8TuBUM

The guy is trying to tell his countrymen the US wants to start a civil war.
12 FECKING YEARS AND A MILLION DEAD UKRAINIANS LATER...
Now the U.S. is blatently trying to pull the same tired wool over your eyes again, selling the same tired bs narratives.

DO YOU IDIOTS THINK THIS IS ENTERTAINMENT?
GO LOOK AT SYRIA, THEY INSTALLED A LEADER OF AL QAEDA.

Death and destruction everywhere.
You think this will be any different?

Give it time, we'll all be talking about this in Venezuela like it's Ukraine or Gaza, and no-one will want to discuss the fecking elephant in the room that's the cause of it.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 17 October 2025 7:35:18 AM
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“Reports of torture of Palestinian hostages held in Zionist-Nazi prisons inside Israel, including women, children and old men”.

I've seen these “reports”, and they all come from Israel-haters. That's why the ‘reporters’ are not named here. But they are all named in the media.

Funny how they are not named by Paul, who is great one for demanding evidence from other people.

He hasn't named them because he knows that he would get a ‘they-would-say that’ response.

As I posted earlier, ‘Stupid people do more harm than evil people’.

Stupid number 1 makes an unsubstantiated claim, and all the other stupids broadcast it without checking.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 17 October 2025 7:41:20 AM
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The US are so dumb.
They scrapped their entire fleet of F14 Tomcats to prevent Iran from getting parts, could've given the whole lot to Ukraine, some 700+ made.

HIMARS FAIL
Great counter offensive FAIL
F-16s FAIL
Stingers, Javelins FAIL
US, British, German tanks FAIL
Air defense FAIL
Western troops in Ukraine FAIL
Oscar Jenkins FAIL

NATO FAIL

If only Ukraine had 10 more 'Oscar Jenkins' they would've won, right?
Shame on that fool for disgracing us.

I'm tired of all this BS already.
The US won't defend us, we'll be expected to lay down our lives for the good of the dying empire

Now Iran has S-35's and some speculate there is an order for Su 57's

Uncle Sam is trying to pick fights in the nursing home.
Wake the f-ck up Australia, it's not going to end well...

China's rare earth export controls have sent the US into a frenzy.

They threaten China militarily talking of war and provoking them in the Taiwan Strait and South China Sea, playing silly games saying no export of high quality chips to China.

So what's China do?
Stops export of rare earths for use by the Wests MIC and chips manufacture.
By the time the west gets it's own supply chains sorted out China will be ahead in all technologies.

We are lead by warmongering idiots, and we're not going to win.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 17 October 2025 8:18:53 AM
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“Reports of torture of Jews held in Auschwitz, they all come from Nazi haters". Same difference ttbn.

"Shadi Abu Sido spent 18 months in Israeli detention believing that his entire family had been killed in Gaza. The Palestinian photojournalist was arrested by Israeli troops on March 18, 2024 while on assignment for the Beirut-based broadcaster, Palestine Today. Tormented and tortured by the Israeli guards. "I started begging them to kill me. I wished for death," he said." All of the detainees from Gaza were held without charge, according to the Associated Press, and many have alleged mistreatment and abuse in Israeli custody."
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 17 October 2025 8:23:44 AM
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What do you all think about China having its 5 year plans?
Seems the communists have greater central planning.
Are they winning? And if so, why?
They sure seemed to outsmart the West and it's greedy capitalists on this rare earths thing.
Are the Chinese not smart for striving towards being self sufficient?
Is the west not dumb for giving them all our jobs?
We exported everything and became interdependent on each other;
And very much dependent on exploiting the poorer nations, and now they've said nope, we're with Russia and China, they treat us with more respect and wish to build up our countries, with ports, energy, hospitals roads and other infrastructure.
'We can even trade using our own currencies!
Keep yer dirty stinkin dollars and euro!

And so it was.
No more cheap cadbury chocolate.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 17 October 2025 9:25:58 AM
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