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What Odds On Trump's M.E Peace Plan?

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My first thoughts probably have little to do with your link.

I'm thinking 'We got rid of the NAZI's, banished their entire line of thought. How are the Israeli's similar and why do we tolerate their bs?'

As for your article, it was less of a critique of Islam, and more of a 'this land belongs to Jews because of 2000 years ago'.

If you wish to sell me on the merits of why Islam is shite
Don't do it by bringing Jews into it.
I don't care about their ancient biblical claims or their wish to establish and maintain an apartheid state.
If I have no right to say I'd rather not live with some races or religions then they don't either.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 18 October 2025 5:19:32 AM
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Paul

I am not a redneck. Pure white all over.

I don't hate people who don't have English sounding names.

The fact that Shady is a Palestinian photojournalist makes him immediately suspect as an activist - not just because he is a Palestinian, but because of his trade.

Journalists are terrible liars, and you seem to have missed the bit where his claim was “alleged”, not proven.

You know you are talking through your arse, because you came up with your tired old can't-prove-it-so-use-words-like-Gestapo-and-far right.

Those silly words have been denuded of any proper meaning because of their overuse by the ignorant - the ignorant who are so stupid that they think a few abusive words will frighten off people much smarter than they are, because that's what their equally stupid heroes have told them to do.

Even the media keeps trying to convince everyone they don't like being called names. I love it. It means I am a winner. These silly names are used only by your sort when you are losing an argument - which is all the time.

I see, too, that your buddy AC thinks that Shadi “must've been photographing and reporting on Israeli atrocities”. He doesn't know, so he makes something up.

AC then goes on to claim that “Israel's assassinated many journalists and their families”.

No proof, like you, just wild accusations.

Are you both in the same sheltered workshop?
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 18 October 2025 9:14:54 AM
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"The fact that Shady is a Palestinian photojournalist makes him immediately suspect as an activist - not just because he is a Palestinian, but because of his trade."
- What does that even mean exactly?

"Journalists are terrible liars, and you seem to have missed the bit where his claim was 'alleged', not proven."
- Which part are you saying he fabricated, if it's abuse while being held without charge, many others can attest to the same treatment.
If it's about his story that IDF told him his family were killed, how can he prove that, but why would you doubt it, I don't.

"I see, too, that your buddy AC thinks that Shadi “must've been photographing and reporting on Israeli atrocities”. He doesn't know, so he makes something up."
- Well given that he's a photojournalist, I image that means he specialises in taking photos, also he (states) he was detained
at Shifa hospital in the northern Gaza Strip on March 18, 2024.

I imagine on the day he was detained he was taking photographs of wounded people who were being brought into the hospital, there may have been kids undergoing amputations without anesthetic.
I doubt he was doing wedding photos, or bird watching ffs.

"AC then goes on to claim that 'Israel's assassinated many journalists and their families'.
No proof, like you, just wild accusations."

That was quite the rant ttbn...
Are you ignorant or just lazy?
Do you want the list of names of the journalists?
Sometimes you talk as if I don't have this thing called 'internet' or that you don't understand what it's used for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_Gaza_war
271 listed killed in Palestine since October 7.
You will find in the table where partners, children or other relatives were killed, you can then google their names if you want to find out more about them or what happened to them.

So what is it ttbn, 'I can't' or 'I don't wanna'?
'stupid and ignorant' you say
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 18 October 2025 11:28:33 PM
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Hi AC,

You and I don't agree with Hamas, we don't agree with Islamic fundamentalism, but what we do agree on is the murder of innocent men, women and children is wrong, be it in Gaza as it would be in Australia. The sick old puppy here is a 'holocaust denier', just as there are those who deny that the mass extermination of Jews took place in Europe during WWII, despite the overwhelming evidence, this bloke chooses to deny the holocaust that has taken place in Gaza. Until such a thing happens to him, or its only being inflicted on lesser mortals than himself, people he hates, its not his problem, or it serves them right!

One of the sickos here, not ttbn, posted that ALL Palestinians are terrorist, including babies, and they all deserve to die.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 19 October 2025 5:33:57 AM
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Hi Paul,
Yes I have my own somewhat unique perspective on things.
I think some immigrants may be more compatible than others.
Or maybe more able to easily integrate.
Maybe it's the clash of religions.
I see the mass immigration of people less than compatible as being a result of Netanyahus wars.
I don't want Australia turning into the UK.
Why can't we just leave it how it was?
Why must we sell our soul and become a basket case like that?
I'm not against immigration, I'm not against foreigners
Just not so many, and not so many in such a short amount of time.
I don't support Hamas, they're 'Islamic resistance'
I don't support Islam, but I do support peoples right to self determination (free from foreign rule) and I support the Palestinian peoples right 'to resist' and fight their oppressors.
I don't support the harm of innocents.

I don't see the M/E conflict as a battle against a hostile Islam.
I see it as the establishment of a Jewish state displacing the existing people and committing atrocities against them, by religious fanatics hell bent on land theft.
I see the Palestinians plight as a matter of human rights, and I see the cause as being Israels failure to state it's borders, because they're the ones not happy with the current borders and actively taking more every day.

Once you take that 'human rights' position in, then it's 'Hell No' I don't want to give Islamic extremism and further polaisation a greater foothold in my country.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 19 October 2025 9:07:47 AM
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Oh ffs... seriously...
They must think we're idiots, many are...

US warns of 'imminent' Hamas attack on Palestinians in Gaza in potential ceasefire breach
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-19/hamas-hands-over-two-more-israeli-hostages-remains/105908710

"The guarantor nations of the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas have been alerted to "credible reports indicating an imminent" violation by the Palestinian terror organisation against the people of Gaza, according to the United States Department of State.

In a statement released on Saturday, local time, the department said: "This planned attack against Palestinian civilians would constitute a direct and grave violation of the ceasefire agreement and undermine the significant progress achieved through mediation efforts."

Planned killing?
Doesn't matter that Israel has AKCHULY killed at least 25 people since the ceasefire, not including another 11 today.

Israel kills 11 Palestinian family members in Gaza’s deadliest truce breach
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/18/israel-kills-11-palestinian-family-members-in-gazas-deadliest-truce-breach

If there's any attack by Hamas against Palestinians, it's because Israel has now armed some of the opposition groups to fight Hamas.

We're supposed to believe the US cares about Palestinians after they've dropped 3 atomic bombs worth of munitions on them and Trump praised Israels military achievements in the Knesset the other day.

DEAR ISRAEL
NO MATTER WHAT BS YOU COME UP WITH
NO MATTER WHAT PICTURE YOU TRY TO PAINT FOR USEFUL IDIOTS
I WILL NOT OPPOSE THE PALESTINIANS RIGHT TO RESIST YOUR OPPRESSION
NO MATTER WHO YOU USE AS YOUR PROXY OR WHAT NARRATIVE YOU CONSTRUCT

People seem frightened shitless of criticising Israel.
Like they have cognitive dissonance.
Deer in headlights
Cant support a genocide, can't criticise Jews

Just tell me now.

Who ACTUALLY supports killing the women and kids?
Who supports killing the journalists
Who supports killing the doctors, nurses, paramedics
Just say so, be honest, say 'I support this'
Because if you can't say that, then stfu about anti-semitism.

When the semites are busy slaughtering women and kids
The moral position is to be ANTI SEMITIC.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 19 October 2025 1:09:21 PM
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