The National Party has done what many people think it should have done long ago: split from the Liberals. They have done it before, but chickened out and made up. This time, it should be permanent.

Liberal moderate (lefty) MPs have the numbers to impose their Labor-lite will on the party of Menzies and make it utterly unelectable.

I wonder if the Liberals and Nationals have asked why they need two parties to get elected when Labor needs only the one.

All the getting back together talk 5 minutes after they have split up is unbelievable; as is the weeping of John Howard and Tony Abbott, who reckons that the solution to everything is more civilians signing up for membership (despite the fact that a few faceless men run the show).

Have the Nationals spined-up, or will they go crawling back?

The Liberal Party is stuffed, and the only hope for a conservative alternative is the Nationals standing against them in every seat.

A small step in the right direction - I wish ALL parties will split, and split, and split, and split, till they turn to dust.
Then only can actual real people and their views on what matters to them most, be represented!

The Liberal Party should have got back to the basics of:

. Small government
. Low taxation
. Self reliance
. Light handed regulation
. Ensuring the country's defence, and
. Dropped the stupid Net Zero policy that THEY signed up to.

It did none of those things; and another risk-averse campaign like Dutton’s in 2028 will wipe them out.

The Nationals would be insane to get back with them again.

Matt Canavan, the only politician I regard as a decent human being who is worth his salt, rightly says that Australia is in decline (and how!), and politicians should concentrate on saving the country, and not themselves and their parties.

Standing alone, both the Nationals and Liberals are unelectable in their own right, that is a fact of life. The Old Farts adulation of the Cow-Cocky politician Matt Canavan, reminiscent of his glorification of Cory Bernardi and his Australian Conservatives back in 2019, they left the poor fella high and dry, and he has been crying in his beer ever since.

Minor parties in Australia have either reached their zenith, as is the case with The Greens and One Nation, or "tanked" like Fat Clive's Trumpets, or been total failures, The Australian Conservative spring to mind on that score. One issue fringe parties and the odd Independent, come and go, who can recall The No Parking Meters Party of yesteryear or of late the No GST Party, they bloom like spring flowers, but soon fade away.

For a Liberal Democracy to function properly, not only does it require good government, but also good opposition. Unfortunately this is not the case at the moment, with the left in government doing well, and the right in opposition falling in a heap! This was true with the last Parliament, and when we thought things couldn't get worse, they suddenly did!

The ‘centre’ in politics is no-man’s territory where convictions go to die. The Liberals need conviction; they need to ignore polls, as John Howard did - and won with policies not always popular initially because he stuck with them despite people who never voted Liberal telling him he was wrong. The most memorable policies being the GST, gun control, and waterfront reforms.

Australia has become a ‘nursery’ society. Its people are too obedient to the government. What sort of people present the worst government ever, the worst Prime Minister ever, with 93 seats in Parliament after moaning about what they did over the past three years!

Australia is now a seriously Leftist country. What used to be the Right is no longer. We are miles behind the US and Europe, where reform has occurred or is occurring. We are weak, like New Zealand and Canada.

The quality of our politicians is appalling, and has been since the likes of John Howard and Bob Hawke. Good people don't want a bar of politics, so low has it been brought down in Australia.

Australian politicians are paid too much. In fact, people two generations before me have said (while they were still around) that politicians started to go downhill when they started to be paid. There was a lot to be said for independently rich people ‘putting back’ into society.

Here, back benchers are getting paid a lot more than the UK Prime Minister. Here, politicians get in young, and hang on as long as they want to. It's a job, not a service. It's all about what they can get, not about the country at all.

On the purely self-interest, personal side for Australians, our living standards have plummeted more than any other country in the OECD. Politicians exempted.

Personal income tax, for those people keeping things going, is far too high. Income tax is higher in Australia than it is in Communist China. Australia's low growth might have something to do with high income tax.

Labor stands for hard Left socialism; but the Liberals stand for nothing.