The National Party has done what many people think it should have done long ago: split from the Liberals. They have done it before, but chickened out and made up. This time, it should be permanent.

Liberal moderate (lefty) MPs have the numbers to impose their Labor-lite will on the party of Menzies and make it utterly unelectable.

I wonder if the Liberals and Nationals have asked why they need two parties to get elected when Labor needs only the one.

All the getting back together talk 5 minutes after they have split up is unbelievable; as is the weeping of John Howard and Tony Abbott, who reckons that the solution to everything is more civilians signing up for membership (despite the fact that a few faceless men run the show).

Have the Nationals spined-up, or will they go crawling back?

The Liberal Party is stuffed, and the only hope for a conservative alternative is the Nationals standing against them in every seat.

A small step in the right direction - I wish ALL parties will split, and split, and split, and split, till they turn to dust.
Then only can actual real people and their views on what matters to them most, be represented!

The Liberal Party should have got back to the basics of:

. Small government
. Low taxation
. Self reliance
. Light handed regulation
. Ensuring the country's defence, and
. Dropped the stupid Net Zero policy that THEY signed up to.

It did none of those things; and another risk-averse campaign like Dutton’s in 2028 will wipe them out.

The Nationals would be insane to get back with them again.

Matt Canavan, the only politician I regard as a decent human being who is worth his salt, rightly says that Australia is in decline (and how!), and politicians should concentrate on saving the country, and not themselves and their parties.

Standing alone, both the Nationals and Liberals are unelectable in their own right, that is a fact of life. The Old Farts adulation of the Cow-Cocky politician Matt Canavan, reminiscent of his glorification of Cory Bernardi and his Australian Conservatives back in 2019, they left the poor fella high and dry, and he has been crying in his beer ever since.

Minor parties in Australia have either reached their zenith, as is the case with The Greens and One Nation, or "tanked" like Fat Clive's Trumpets, or been total failures, The Australian Conservative spring to mind on that score. One issue fringe parties and the odd Independent, come and go, who can recall The No Parking Meters Party of yesteryear or of late the No GST Party, they bloom like spring flowers, but soon fade away.

For a Liberal Democracy to function properly, not only does it require good government, but also good opposition. Unfortunately this is not the case at the moment, with the left in government doing well, and the right in opposition falling in a heap! This was true with the last Parliament, and when we thought things couldn't get worse, they suddenly did!

The ‘centre’ in politics is no-man’s territory where convictions go to die. The Liberals need conviction; they need to ignore polls, as John Howard did - and won with policies not always popular initially because he stuck with them despite people who never voted Liberal telling him he was wrong. The most memorable policies being the GST, gun control, and waterfront reforms.

Australia has become a ‘nursery’ society. Its people are too obedient to the government. What sort of people present the worst government ever, the worst Prime Minister ever, with 93 seats in Parliament after moaning about what they did over the past three years!

Australia is now a seriously Leftist country. What used to be the Right is no longer. We are miles behind the US and Europe, where reform has occurred or is occurring. We are weak, like New Zealand and Canada.

The quality of our politicians is appalling, and has been since the likes of John Howard and Bob Hawke. Good people don't want a bar of politics, so low has it been brought down in Australia.

Australian politicians are paid too much. In fact, people two generations before me have said (while they were still around) that politicians started to go downhill when they started to be paid. There was a lot to be said for independently rich people ‘putting back’ into society.

Here, back benchers are getting paid a lot more than the UK Prime Minister. Here, politicians get in young, and hang on as long as they want to. It's a job, not a service. It's all about what they can get, not about the country at all.

On the purely self-interest, personal side for Australians, our living standards have plummeted more than any other country in the OECD. Politicians exempted.

Personal income tax, for those people keeping things going, is far too high. Income tax is higher in Australia than it is in Communist China. Australia's low growth might have something to do with high income tax.

Labor stands for hard Left socialism; but the Liberals stand for nothing.

Queensland Premier, David Chrisfulli, is showing some backbone - going against the decline of his side of politics.

Chrisfulli has told the United Nations that, “You don’t control me and I don't answer to you”.

This spirited response that we once expected from the non-Labor side of politics came following human rights “experts”condemnation of Queensland's measures to deal with youth crime as “incompatible with basic child rights”.

The children in question are rapists, attempted murderers, torturers, and arsonists.

The measures, the UN “experts” say, could have an “especially negative effect” on the indigenous children who are having a negative effect on Queensland society! As well as the twaddle about them being “over represented” in criminal conduct - because of their aboriginality, not because they are just thugs, irrespective of race.

Very unusual for Australian politicians of all brands, the Premier stated that: “I am accountable to Queenslanders, not to the United Nations”.

Love me some fascist tears in the morning. LOL
Long may the country bumpkins go their own way.
Oh how funny will it be to watch them come grovelling back.
As they will. Like the losers they are.
In the meantime Labor can get on with governing and improving Australia.

The conservatives should distance themselves from a wind and solar powered Australia. It won't be pretty to be holding the can when the con becomes apparent to most Australians. Turnbull and Morrison abandoned conservatism by embracing renewable energy.

Hi Fester,

"Turnbull and Morrison abandoned conservatism by embracing renewable energy." No... they did not, energy policy has nothing to do with political philosophy. Its clear from the election result that Australians rejected a pro-nuclear policy as put forward by the Coalition. For better or for worse, Labors renewables is the preferred option, time for everyone to live with it.

As for Conservatism as a preference in our liberal democracy, its not what aspirational Australians prefer and want, they very much embrace a mix of free enterprise, with the added benefits of progressive socialism. Conservatism might appeal to a few Old Farts and diehards on a micro small forum, but it is unlikely to garner anymore than token support with the wider community.

"they need to ignore polls, as John Howard did" and get tossed out of office and lose your own seat at the same time, as Little Johnny Howard did!

"Personal income tax, for those people keeping things going, is far too high", and $60 billion of it is used to support an army of non productive's, living off aged welfare.

Now they look like getting back together again! What a childishness bunch of petulant self-serving idiots the Liberals and Nationals are.

Ley is a dill. Little-to- be-proud-of is a dill. The individual politicians in both parties are dills. The few paying members still rusted on to the parties are dills.

Silly old John Howard is a dill, as is 'don't-worry-it-will-be-alright-just-join-the-party' Tony Abbott.

Thanks to all these dills, the ultra-Left ALP looks like being in power - and dragging the country down - for the foreseeable future.

All because of the biggest dills of all, Australian voters.

Hi Paul,

Yes, renewables have public support, but is a wind and solar powered grid viable? I don't think it is, and if wind and solar do prove to be a failure the conservatives should be there with a viable alternative. By supporting renewables they are just part of the problem.

Returning to Australia after four years in the US, journalist Adam Creighton feels that there has been an intellectual vacuum in “right of centre” politics for some time; and the Liberal Party “doesn't seem to know what it stands for”, while the Nationals “have some idea”.

At the moment, the Liberals are more worried about the 30% pay rise for whomever Lady Ley appoints to the shadow ministry than they are about Australians and the country. They will move further to the Left, do anything to get the good jobs, I believe.

ttbn,

Calling all and sundry DILLS.... Well, well, well, are you not the DILL who in 2019 was singing the praises of Corny Banana, and his Australian Conservative Party? Did you not say you had made a substantial contribution to the cause, a whole fortnights aged welfare maybe. The contribution was used to fly CB and his cronies around the countryside, dining on the best lobster and champagne a la carte , living it up five star! There was the Old Fart supporters living off baked beans and dry toast. As for CB and his party, it scored half a percent of the popular vote then it promptly disappeared up its own a-hole, along with all those contributors hopes and dreams. The poor Old fart supporters have been crying in their beer ever since! Pot-kettle-black.

Is this bloke in Cloud Cuckoo Land; "the only hope for a conservative alternative is the Nationals standing against them (Liberals) in every seat." Candidates from the Cow Cocky Party would be an unelectable nuance in the majority of seats, with a minimal vote in a 3 way contest. Obviously like with most things, the old fella has no basic understand of politics. One thing is clear the Tories are a bunch of rabble totally unelectable. With their poor leadership, and hopeless policies, they should spend the next decade in the political wilderness.

I agree with law professor James Allan, writing about the “mess” the Liberal Party is in:

“Three years ago you’d have been laughed out of any room if you’d have said that the nondescript, few observable accomplishments, from the far-left of the party room Sussan Ley would be a future party leader”.

And, that she would be allowed to stack the shadow cabinet with the most Labor-lite MPs “ever seen in the Party's history”.

Allan claims that he knew from day one that Malcolm Turnbull would be a disaster (true), and he feels the same about “Team Ley”.

Unfortunately, James Allan continues on to recommend that has-beens John Howard and Tony Abbott should be listened to, when there are ample supplies of young conservatives if the has-beens would step aside.

Some dopey donors to the Liberal Party are reported as urging the dying party to “negotiate” with the Albanese Socialist government on the superannuation tax.

Apart from the fact that the government is in a position where it doesn't have to negotiate with anyone, the Liberals should be opposing the rotten deal. Opposing is their job.

They can't stop the Socialists, given that they have control of the Senate, but a little bit of backbone would indicate to voters that the Liberal Party might still have some use.

But, guess what? The Liberals are ‘divided’ on what they should do!

Dear old Bronwyn Bishop. Same age as I am, therefore an ‘old fart’ according to disrespectful grunters lacking language skills, rightly says that the Liberals should not be doing deals with Socialists out to steal from the superannuated.

If the Liberals had any sense at all, they would be getting ready for the next election and undertaking to repeal the legislation if elected. They should also be thumping away at it, explaining the theft, when Parliament returns.

I read an article yesterday by an American female sounding off about old people. She was complaining about the same things I was when I was young and stupid like her.

Someone once said that he thought his father was pretty dumb but as he, the son, got older, it was amazing how much his dad had learned

ttbn,

I thought old Johnny and Bronny were the young face of conservatism in Australia today, am I mistaken? Enough is enough, having a pair of pompous has-beens like Howard and Bishop telling the nation how it should be, that is an absurdity. The pair should be consigned to some aged home for the decrepit, never to be heard from again!

BTW, You were all "hurrah" when the Cow Cockies split from the Pig Iron Bob party, that was short lived. They soon realised no matter how much they hate each other, they need one another, if the spats and straw hats are going to survive.

The Liberal Party is the only (presumed) right of centre party in the world with the word “liberal” in its name. In other countries, liberal means left. We all know that.

More and more of the members of the Liberal party are of the Left.

The only people still thinking that the Liberal Party is anything like a conservative party are John Howard and Tony Abbott.

Australians don't have a clue what conservativism is. Wishy washy “classic liberals” is what we have here.

Scott Morrison has received a King's birthday award for "eminent service to the people and parliament of Australia... to notable contributions to global engagement, to leadership of the national COVID-19 response, to economic initiatives, and to national security enhancements, especially through leadership of Australia's contribution to AUKUS".

Unbelievable!

Public holidays in Australia are all a joke, apart from Anzac Day. But even that is an insult, given that just about everything that it once stood for has been obliterated by mass immigration, multiculturalism, perversions and neo-communist politicians.

As for the King's birthday: while the Monarchy is worth having, the Monarch himself is an idiot, sticking his nose in matters he said he wouldn't. A liar as well as an idiot.

Having a pleasant day as usual, are we, ttbn? Don't worry Nursee will be along with your medication shortly. This blokes a real case!

I believe Albanese whipped it out again at the National Press Club. That's his Medicare card. With no Opposition to speak of, he can get away with the same tired old tricks. All his kicks are free. He has been given carte blanche to do as he pleases.

The one party system is closer than I thought. That the one question about the China threat was sidestepped by Comrade Albanese indicates what form that party will take.