Ok so what happens if say the Muslim nurses instaed of getting angry and holding their frustration in, then saying something stupid, instead chose to conscientiously object to treating Jewish patients at all whilst an ICJ accepted genocide was ongoing?

No risk of harm to anyone, just a denial of service.
Would they have a right to discriminate?

What about other people both business owners and/or their staff?
What if their reasoning was to not cause Jewish people any harm, just deny them service, so that Jews themselves would put pressure on Israel to stop the mass killings?

What if the Jews said 'Well Israel has a right to defend itself'
And the Muslims responded 'Well so do the Palestinians, it's an inherent right founded in international law'.

Why should the Muslim Imam be warned about saying things which are true, i.e. there are double standards in the outrage shown.

Should Australians be free to discriminate against people and cultures they don't want coming here, or should the will of the people be ignored because of some ideology decided by foreigners, and the votes of the mass influx of immigrants themselves?

Such a crazy confusing world of endless conflict, exploitation and hypocrisy...
I just want a fair world without conflict for everyone and for people to be able to live their lives with respect, decency and dignity.

Dear Critic,

«say for example a child sex offender applied for a job in a child care centre,»

Well obviously, but that's too trivial and not even presently illegal.

«Muslim nurses... instead chose to conscientiously object to treating Jewish patients at all whilst an ICJ accepted genocide was ongoing?»

I thought we already agreed that the public service is a whole different ball-game.
Tax-payer-funded activities should be open to the public et large.

«What about other people both business owners and/or their staff?»

Owners of private, non-public-funded businesses should be able to accept or reject at their pleasure whoever they like as their employees, suppliers and customers and also set the work-conditions for their staff, and their staff must abide by whatever conditions they agreed to - or leave.

«What if the Jews said 'Well Israel has a right to defend itself'
And the Muslims responded 'Well so do the Palestinians, it's an inherent right founded in international law'.»

That is a fundamental conceptual error: there are no such things as "the Jews" or "the Muslims": each person may have their own personal views whether they happen to be Jewish, Muslim, both or none.

«Why should the Muslim Imam be warned about saying things which are true,»

I haven't warned any Muslim Imam, that is not my place.

«Should Australians be free to discriminate against people and cultures they don't want coming here»

If they like, Australians may deny them certain privileges, such as citizenship, protection, health-care and welfare, which could indirectly deter them from coming, yet Australians may not directly prevent them from coming.

«I just want a fair world without conflict for everyone and for people to be able to live their lives with respect, decency and dignity.»

I have faith that the world IS fair, was created fair and will remain forever fair, even while it may not seem fair from a limited single-lifetime perspective.

Those who sow the wind are bound to reap a storm!
Those who do not will live with respect, decency and dignity, and like islands will remain untouched by the world's conflicts.

Q1 So who gets the blame for this?

http://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1894212218516115890

1. Netanyahu and his M/E wars?
2. Or our own pissweak governments frightened of discriminating against illegal immigrants and those who hate us and wish to exploit us?

Q2. What do you think would've happened to that kid if he got her?

Now multiply this by infinity.
Because that's how long the generations of your family will now have live with it.
And you can also thank weak sellout leaders like ours for it too.
They love it and are proud of it.

Anyone have any ideas how can we put the toothpaste back into the tube?

Rhian,

<<I do have a problem with them threatening to murder patients.>>

Do you honestly believe people who openly come out threatening to murder patients will go through with such activity? As some have pointed out here no, as they will be found out, with those undertaking activity going in to the negative of the patient doing so in private.

It is clear you only want those who do not say such words publicly and keep their true feelings bottled up to themselves to stay on in a workplace environment, but from those bottled up feelings you also have down the track actions.... I'm not sure if that's the best way forward.

This is why I have called for an audit based on mhaze seeing this case involving two nurses as a safety one. There are challenges so if achievable another story altogether, but still possible.

The best option in my view is to accept comments like these put out by the two nurses as being part of the free flowing, public discourse. Decide if they are to be taken seriously and if we don't take them seriously, then we simply move on. I mean we have so many bigger fish to fry out there, these nurses in my view two fish we can let swim away.

Hi NathanJ,

I think the nurses comments were probably said in the heat of the moment.
That said they didn't have to say what they did.
The Jewish patients in Australian public hospitals most likely are not involved in anything that happens in Israel.

They could've objected to anything Israel and the IDF are doing.
All the things I say critical of the war, they could've said those things, and they could've said they thought the IDF soldier was a horrible person for being involved in it.

But they didn't say any of those things.
They vented hate just like the Israelis display.
And even if they were being angry and snarky;
- 2 wrongs don't make a right.

They shouldn't be saying that stuff against any patients.
It goes against everything they stand for as caregivers.

Of all the people in the forum critical of Israel and that war, if there was a way to give it a pass, I'd be the one to do so, right?
But there just isn't, they were wrong.
It's black and white, there's no grey area.

I don't know how they could ever go back to being nurses.
They would never live that down, it wouldn't be fair on the patients or them either, because they would never be allowed to forget it.

Who put the spiders in your bed
http://x.com/realstewpeters/status/1894113630691491853
Welcome to Australistan.

And you lot wonder why I say the things I do.
I'm just responding to current global events.