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Sacked nurses a step too far in terms of free speech and comment

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The nurses have gone international. A great advertisement for Australia's multiculturalism....

http://www.thefp.com/p/israelophobia-goes-mainstream-down

BTW, AC doubles down on the fuckwittery that the Nazi book burning was about transgenderism. I give up...the bloke's a fool.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 24 February 2025 8:20:49 AM
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Anybody watched "60 Minutes" last night?

The fundamentalism and its impact on Australia -
scared the heck out of me.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 24 February 2025 8:39:03 AM
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Thanks to Brendan O’Neill for ‘Israelophobe’ to add to the description of the anti-Semites on OLO and in the wider community. His article will, unfortunately, warn decent people against coming to Australia. All the ratbags don't see that what goes on in other countries, in other cultures, has absolutely nothing to do with AUSTRALIA.

I wish O'Neill hadn't referred to the scum as “Aussie nurses”. There is nothing Australian about them, born here, or accepted here.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 24 February 2025 9:43:55 AM
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The "nurses" unfortunately have a following.

The risk now is, that they will become "martyrs" with the ensuing rise in supporters.
Posted by WhiteMouse, Monday, 24 February 2025 10:40:56 AM
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AC

It used to be said that "a picture tells a thousand words",

Unfortunately, now "a picture tells a thousand lies".

This is especially so with social media.

Pictures can be cropped, photo-shopped, mis-labelled, staged and on it goes. I have seen pictures from a "war zone" which were actually pictures from Syria with no relevance to that labelled what so ever.

I have seen pictures of the "dead" in body bags, which were actually pictures of students protesting against war.

I have seen pictures of the injured, terrible pictures, that were actually photo-shopped ... others staged.

Don't believe any "information" obtained from social media, or other sites of propaganda.

Many social media sites play on the kind and the gullible.

Propaganda has reached new heights in deceit and lying
Posted by WhiteMouse, Monday, 24 February 2025 10:55:41 AM
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Rhian,

You refer to employer values and standards. It must be noted that employers have never held employees in high regard. Employers over time have:

1. Had employees work long hours, without a fair wage paid.
2. Provided little in employee benefits such as paid work leave.
3. Actively engaged in worker exploitation.
4. Underpayment with many employees living below the poverty line.

While there will be differences of opinion regarding issues, publicly sharing views which clash with the so called 'values' of an employer are hardly credible (argument wise) in terms of removing a person from a work role when employers have never had any standards to take seriously from their time of creation.

One example where this can fit in here can be the garment industry. If one looks at items made and the health sector many are made in places where people are paid a low wage, one recent example face masks for the COVID-19 epidemic. These links will provide you some perspective.

http://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7822568/

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-25/garment-homeworkers-urged-to-speak-up-about-their-working-rights/12900942

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-22/medical-supply-company-charging-$786-for-single-box-of-masks/12166438

In terms of a person losing employment based on comments made this should take a range of factors into account (words limited here), including a review that is fair and balanced, and the directness of the comments in question, so did an employee overstep the mark by expressing their personal views directly to a patient leaving the person at the other end feeling uncomfortable. It must be noted it should be seen as reasonable for that person to express those views elsewhere as pointed out and for individuals to be able to operate within two spheres - a personal one and a work one, particularly if the person has no criminal record and a good working record with patients.

For a person working in the health sector, it is perfectly reasonable to speak on matters like here (garment exploitation), regardless of their employer. It is not about their employer, their image, reputation or values as their employer values are non-existent and have never been there. Many employers have also treated their customers in a way that is hardly desirable either.
Posted by NathanJ, Monday, 24 February 2025 11:54:09 AM
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