Hi AC,

Yes, it's an unsubstantiated story, but the Gazans are at war with Israel, so atrocities are a given.

The Gaza strip was seized by Israel in the six day war of 1967, a war prosecuted by Egypt with the objective of annihilating Israel, the same objective of all wars prosecuted against the state of Israel since it was proclaimed by the United Nations in 1948. In 2005 the Gaza strip was disengaged by Israel in an effort to improve the security of the nation, shortly after which Hamas was elected to power and began firing rockets into surrounding Israeli territory.

Hatred has always been the driver of the conflict. I don't see the point of using hateful acts as a motivation for more hatred.

Hi mhaze,
"It turned out that I was right - it was a misfired Hamas rocket. Since you were PROVEN wrong, you've now decided to reimagine what was said."
- Well we don't really know for certain what happened mhaze, 'he says, she says...'
But we know they targeted that hospital and others on other occasions.

Do you want me to dig up the pictures of the Palestinians being burned alive when they were just giving blood trying to save others?
I could, but it matters not and do you know why?

Because Israel killed hundreds of thousands of innocent women and kids over the course anyway, doesn't really matter whether they died at that hospital in that particular instance, because it's just a drop in the ocean.

And maybe if they weren't killing journalists, we wouldn't have to speculate.

I know you pro-Israel people don't like to hear it, and make all the excuses to play it down or explain it away, but the Israelis have done some horrible unconscionable things.

Dying in ‘Hell’: The fate of Palestinian medics jailed by Israel
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/24/dying-in-hell-palestinian-medics-jailed-by-israel
'One of Gaza’s most prominent doctors may have been raped to death, recent revelations show. He’s not the only one.'

We're angry that the Sydney Pro-Palestinian nurses have brought our health system into disrepute, as we should be.
- But the Israelis brought the whole 'caring for the sick and injured' profession into disrepute as well.

Infants found dead and decomposing in evacuated hospital ICU in Gaza. Here’s what we know
http://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/08/middleeast/babies-al-nasr-gaza-hospital-what-we-know-intl/index.html

I don't blame the Sydney nurses being angry at Israel or the IDF.
But as you said yourself mhaze, they threatened to use their positions as carers to do harm.
They went off the 'caring for the sick and injured reservation' and were an affront to the values they're supposed to uphold.
Whether they had a reason to be angry should be considered, but at the same time it matters not.
They crossed a line which should not be crossed and they brought our health system into disrepute.

Hi Foxy,
"You'd think that by what the world has witnessed
in both the past and the present - people would
no longer take sides in conflicts but do what they
can to prevent the violence for the sake of justice
and humanity."

Many try to do just that. But it's clear that not enough
do."

Sometimes you talk out of both sides of your mouth, I know you have your entrenched Anto-Russia bias.
I don't understand how you can say two completely conflicting things just 15 minutes apart.

"We can no longer assume that the most powerful nation will
continue to stand for peace and justice. The current US
President is of great concern - if he stand by a dictator
instead of a freedom fighter fighting for his people's
freedom and basic human rights."

It appears you oppose Trumps efforts to put an end to the loss of life and want it to continue, for the sake of some misplaced principles?
At the end of the day, the U.S. has a weak hand, Russia has won on the battlefield.
Even Trump has to face that reality, unless you preferred Biden to take us to a nuclear showdown where everyone loses?

I don't support everything Trump says and does, by no means.
But he should be applauded for dialogue and diplomacy where Biden was absent and for a willingness to re-enter into nuclear treaties.

"Well we don't really know for certain what happened mhaze"

That's not true. We saw footage of the Hamas rocket launching, failing and falling into the hospital grounds. The UN agreed. Al Jazeera agreed. Hell, even rampantly pro-Hamas New York Times agreed. Only people like yourself who refuse to see the nose on their face hold out.

Oh, says AC, what I said about mhaze was wrong. Quick, let's change the subject by ranting about all these supposed Israeli atrocities.

But let's all ignore the babies returned coffins even though it was "a disgrace to Islam, an act of blasphemy against Allah,"

mhaze,

<<The problem is that they threatened to turn their dislike of Israel into attacks against Jews in this country.>>

As has been highlighted by many in this discussion, it is important to consider how many people who openly points like these nurses have are likely to act on them. In most cases, they are unlikely to follow through. Moreover, they would likely not be able to carry out such acts easily, as they would now be under constant supervision by security, police, and other authorities.

As pointed out by myself as some see this now as a public safety issue, we need to audit all people in various sectors, the health sector being one of them. We need to find out what the exact views of individuals are and if they don't fit in or resonate with certain values and principles, we turf them out. The challenge will be dealing with those who lie and keep their true feelings to themselves, but if it's truly a public safety issue and not a political one, then we need to take action and address as soon as possible.

Just out of interest would you support such an audit of people's views so we can throw out the potential troublemakers in the future? I mean we don't want individuals who 'threaten to turn their dislike of Israel into attacks against Jews in this country' in the health system do we?

As ttbn points out: 'your average Muslim is not interested in killing Jews' which I would say applies to most, if not all out there (in terms of your average person), with the majority having no desire or the skills to kill any human being out there, so the prospect of that happening in real tems is nil to nothing.

Once again you are obsessed with these two nurses and not those who are undertaking negative acts towards patients in hospitals and the health sector broadly and those who potentially will in the future. The question is why?

"Once again you are obsessed with these two nurses and not those who are undertaking negative acts towards patients in hospitals and the health sector broadly and those who potentially will in the future. The question is why?"

Nathan,

YOU started the thread about the nurses. I'm not obsessed with them but they are the subject of the thread....your thread!!

If you started a thread about tiddlywinks, my talking about tiddlywinks wouldn't show I was obsessed by them. Only that I was being polite by responding to your thread subject.


They made threats. Whether the threats were credible is not really the point. If you go back a few days I proposed a scenario of a Uber driver threatening to rape the next short skirted women he picks up. Would you oppose him losing his Uber licence?

These nurses were fools for making these threats on a public digital forum. Apart from all the other reasons they ought to be separated from any chance to carry out the threats, they should be sacked for sheer stupidity.