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No Australian Money For Gaza

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A perfect example of spitting hatred that few could
top.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 4:20:03 PM
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They desperately need support.
Foxy,
Just for a moment consider what the outcome would be if we gave them all we possibly could ?
Would they rebuild & then recommence the attacks on Israel or, would they live in tents among the rubble & continue asap with doing what got them among the rubble in the first place ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 5:51:21 PM
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I don't know whether President Trump was joking or not, but I him saw this evening talking about the US taking over Gaza, sans Palestinians and Hamas, and turning the strip into a holiday resort. The Riviera of the Middle East, I believe he said.

I also note that he is hosting PM Netanyahu at White House. The Albanese government probably wouldn't even give him a visa to visit Australia; but if they did, they would arrest him in line with their voting in the UN, and their agreement with the International Criminal Court.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 9:54:36 PM
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Dear Ttbn,

Yes, this is what Trump said, and no, he is not joking.

It is difficult to watch as the Israeli government rejoices, with some calling it "God's finger", and Smotrich quoting from Psalm 126: "then said they among the heathen, The Lord hath done great things for them. The Lord hath done great things for us; whereof we are glad".

The Israeli political center, in opposition, supports the idea in principle, though is sceptical that it can be implemented in practice.

The Israeli left and Arab Israelis oppose this move outright, and so do Australia, China, Brazil, Germany, France, Spain, The UK and Russia.

But the view I support most, is that of Israel's president, Isaac Herzog, saying: "Nothing is more important than returning the hostages home".

As far as the Middle East goes, there are three important things:
1) The Israeli hostages.
2) The Israeli hostages.
3) The Israeli hostages.

So long as they are released and return to their families, who cares what happens next in Gaza?

Trump's idea, if implementable, is great for the ordinary people of Gaza, but I am apprehensive about Trump rocking the boat at this very sensitive time when the hostages are slowly returning.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 10:55:42 PM
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Who writes; "but I him saw this evening talking" The Old Fart who berates others for their grammatical errors. This guy is barely literate himself!

As for Trumps "Plan", another bit of American expansionist policy. The Palestinian people deserve a safe and secure homeland, just as much as the Israeli people do.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 6 February 2025 4:57:34 AM
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President Trump has ‘doubled down’ on his plans for Gaza. He “reimagines” the Middle East in different terms from the same monotonous, continued, failing formulas built on “illusion, agreements predicated on fantasy, and a wilful refusal to acknowledge the fundamental realities of Palestinian rejectionism and terror”. Mollification is a thing of the past.

. No reforming of Gaza
. Removing Gaza's population entirely
. No illusions of Palestinian self-rule
. No more accommodation of the irredeemable status quo
. Dismantling the population that perpetrated the October 7 atrocities against Israel
. An enduring peace and partnership with Saudi Arabia
. Meeting with Jordan's King and President on the necessary actions.
. Ending Hamas
. Ending Iran’s nuclear plans

Trump says that living in Gaza is now untenable, and he is prepared to help its current inhabitants to live peacefully and prosperously elsewhere. Hopefully not in the West.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 6 February 2025 10:17:16 AM
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